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On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down.
Life is barely ahead of Leenock on their head to head..
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On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss
He got 2nd one time, ro8 once and ro16 a few times.
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On April 28 2013 07:19 JayJay_90 wrote:
I haven't seen that much HOTS before this DH, but I've heard a lot of Zergs complain about skytoss being unbeatable. I can't think of a game where I have seen anything like that though. What is this infamous skytoss?
A mass Skytoss deathball of Tempests, Colossi, High Templars, Archons, Void Rays, Stalkers and Sentries. Optional Carriers as well.
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On April 28 2013 06:49 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 06:48 megapants wrote:
not a fan of allowing sase to enter the booth after each game. just generally doesn't feel very sportsmanlike to me, if that makes sense Why? The coach can talk to his players at half time in football? Why does it matter?
They are allowed to go in the booths at between games in GSL, why shouldnt it be allowed here?
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On April 28 2013 07:18 Azurues wrote:
this early hive - get ultra + zerglings to push protoss is it gonna be the meta of ZvP?
i am loving these builts.
and yes HoTs so much better than WoL already
100% agree. I love all these confusing builds with different compositions being viable. Hope Swarm Host gets tinkered a bit more but HoTS is so much better. Being an SC2 fan at the end of WoL was so painful when it was all no rush BL/Infestor.
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On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.
Nice one :D
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This thread is seriously going downhill. People is seriously balance complaining about a 6-7 base Zerg beating a 4 base Protoss? Are we surrounded by Bronze players or something? Every decent player knows SC2 is a macro based game first and foremost. Most stuff>>>>>>>>>less stuff.
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On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss He got 2nd one time then ro16 a few times.
He's made ro8 several times, 2nd in one of the greatest gsl finals ever, ro16 multiple times and code S almost 10 seasons in a row. Oh let's not forget his IPL victory, most stacked WoL tournament ever, his first MLG win against Naniwa, and his 2nd place against Life at the other MLG.
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On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/ It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better. You must have a phoenix ball v mutas. we need corsairs honestly. COrsairs are so cool in comparison. I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it. I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs. I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game. I fucking love Corsairs<3 favorite starcraft unit
"Today is a good day to die"
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Leenock going for Roach Warren. This may be a repeat of MLG Providence.
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On April 28 2013 07:19 Tao367 wrote:
I really think the tech switching is the problem here, not the mutalisks itself.
What is the problem exactly? That zerg won?
Should zerg on 6-7 base not be able to beat protoss on 4?
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I'm wondering why JD do not appear here (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings) with 300 points. Must he play on a WCS event before having his points credited ?
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life and Leenock trade fairly evenly whenever they meet
The problem is that Life kills everybody else so he advances anyway, if leenock fumbles hes f'ked ;/
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On April 28 2013 07:20 veKtory wrote:
This thread is seriously going downhill. People is seriously balance complaining about a 6-7 base Zerg beating a 4 base Protoss? Are we surrounded by Bronze players or something?
Copper
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Really hoping for NaNiwa to take this final right now, but Leenock just seems like the better player. Not forgetting NaNiwa has caused upsets before!
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Daogin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life is barely ahead of Leenock on their head to head..
15-13, it's just that Life wins the right 15.
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On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/ It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better. You must have a phoenix ball v mutas. we need corsairs honestly. COrsairs are so cool in comparison. I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it. I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs. I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game. I fucking love Corsairs<3 favorite starcraft unit
Replace the colossus with the the sc1 reaver. No one will ever complain about the coinflip decisions in Dreamhack again.
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