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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#9501
I saw Goswser make a batch of 51 mutas in Ritmix. That's a big batch.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#9502
On April 28 2013 07:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down.

Life and Leenock trade fairly evenly whenever they meet

I'm basing this on results. Life has won too much the past 8 or so months. Guy is on his path to ascension.
The Bomber boy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#9503
On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.

similar results in GSL my asss

He got 2nd one time, ro8 once and ro16 a few times.

that's a damn few times more than naniwa did
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#9504
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.

similar results in GSL my asss

How many times has Leenock been past the ro16?
AdministratorBreak the chains
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#9505
On April 28 2013 07:21 Onos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 Tao367 wrote:
I really think the tech switching is the problem here, not the mutalisks itself.


What is the problem exactly? That zerg won?

Should zerg on 6-7 base not be able to beat protoss on 4?

Reading into this a bit much.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
April 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#9506
On April 28 2013 07:20 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down.

Life is barely ahead of Leenock on their head to head..


That's ZvZ. On ZvT Life is quite better.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9507
On April 28 2013 07:21 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.

similar results in GSL my asss

He got 2nd one time then ro16 a few times.

He's made ro8 several times, 2nd in one of the greatest gsl finals ever, ro16 multiple times and code S almost 10 seasons in a row.

so 2nd place and ro8 one time.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9508
On April 28 2013 07:21 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down.

Life and Leenock trade fairly evenly whenever they meet

I'm basing this on results. Life has won too much the past 8 or so months. Guy is on his path to ascension.

it's 13-15 or something dude in the past 8 months. selective memory
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9509
On April 28 2013 07:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:20 Daogin wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down.

Life is barely ahead of Leenock on their head to head..


15-13, it's just that Life wins the right 15.


Heh, well said.

Leenock deserves another tournament win, he always scores soo highly. So, go take down this puny Swede!
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9510
On April 28 2013 07:20 Sandermatt wrote:
A single fan choir


To be fair he was using one of the most retarded swedish soccer cheers so im not surprised he was left alone
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9511
make a warp prism and get scouted? what are you doing naniwa
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 22:22:35
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9512
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.

similar results in GSL my asss


Seriously. You can't compare someone who had 2 ro8 runs to someone who has been a Code S staple and finalist for at least a year and a half.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9513
On April 28 2013 07:20 Absentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:17 Hassybaby wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 freetgy wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:14 veKtory wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 freetgy wrote:
this is an unwinnable situation right there, despite Naniwa beeing so much ahead and having both Storm and Archons...

Hope balance team was watching.


Yea they should really put a cap on the number of bases a Zerg can take. Make them so they can't take more than 3 bases.


nope it showed that even with Phoenix Range, PHoenix suck vs. mass Mutas


I totally agree that 6-7 phoenix should be totally able to take on a cloud of 30+ mutas

Totally


One of the issues, though, is that if you commit too much to phoenix, you're going to get stomped by a by a 40+ larva tech switch.


Yes, completely unlike when a Zerg over commits too much to Corrupters then the Protoss player makes a bunch of Gateway units.

/complain
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9514
On April 28 2013 07:21 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/


It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better.

You must have a phoenix ball v mutas.

we need corsairs honestly.

COrsairs are so cool in comparison.


I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it.

I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs.

I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game.


I fucking love Corsairs<3

favorite starcraft unit


"Today is a good day to die"


"Adun Toridas!!"
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9515
On April 28 2013 07:21 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/


It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better.

You must have a phoenix ball v mutas.

we need corsairs honestly.

COrsairs are so cool in comparison.


I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it.

I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs.

I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game.


I fucking love Corsairs<3

favorite starcraft unit


"Today is a good day to die"

"It is a good day to die."
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 22:23:13
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9516
Immortal pushes look outdated with viable hydra lategame.

edit: DERP!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#9517
On April 28 2013 07:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.

similar results in GSL my asss

How many times has Leenock been past the ro16?

How many times have both players lost in the first round of Code A?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 27 2013 22:23 GMT
#9518
On April 28 2013 07:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:
On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?

Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works.


Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg.

Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level.

I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament.

I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close.

I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.

similar results in GSL my asss

How many times has Leenock been past the ro16?

are you really trying to argue that naniwa and leenock have similar gsl results?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
thmz
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden1 Post
April 27 2013 22:23 GMT
#9519
Sorry, I just came back. Who won game 3?
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
April 27 2013 22:23 GMT
#9520
damn leenock is playing this very smart
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