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I saw Goswser make a batch of 51 mutas in Ritmix. That's a big batch.
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life and Leenock trade fairly evenly whenever they meet
I'm basing this on results. Life has won too much the past 8 or so months. Guy is on his path to ascension.
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opterown
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On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss He got 2nd one time, ro8 once and ro16 a few times.
that's a damn few times more than naniwa did
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss
How many times has Leenock been past the ro16?
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Onos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Tao367 wrote:
I really think the tech switching is the problem here, not the mutalisks itself. What is the problem exactly? That zerg won? Should zerg on 6-7 base not be able to beat protoss on 4?
Reading into this a bit much.
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Daogin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life is barely ahead of Leenock on their head to head..
That's ZvZ. On ZvT Life is quite better.
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Daogin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss He got 2nd one time then ro16 a few times. He's made ro8 several times, 2nd in one of the greatest gsl finals ever, ro16 multiple times and code S almost 10 seasons in a row.
so 2nd place and ro8 one time.
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life and Leenock trade fairly evenly whenever they meet I'm basing this on results. Life has won too much the past 8 or so months. Guy is on his path to ascension.
it's 13-15 or something dude in the past 8 months. selective memory
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On April 28 2013 07:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:20 Daogin wrote:On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life is barely ahead of Leenock on their head to head.. 15-13, it's just that Life wins the right 15.
Heh, well said.
Leenock deserves another tournament win, he always scores soo highly. So, go take down this puny Swede!
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Sandermatt wrote:
A single fan choir
To be fair he was using one of the most retarded swedish soccer cheers so im not surprised he was left alone
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make a warp prism and get scouted? what are you doing naniwa
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On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss
Seriously. You can't compare someone who had 2 ro8 runs to someone who has been a Code S staple and finalist for at least a year and a half.
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On April 28 2013 07:20 Absentia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:17 Hassybaby wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 freetgy wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 veKtory wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 freetgy wrote:
this is an unwinnable situation right there, despite Naniwa beeing so much ahead and having both Storm and Archons...
Hope balance team was watching. Yea they should really put a cap on the number of bases a Zerg can take. Make them so they can't take more than 3 bases. nope it showed that even with Phoenix Range, PHoenix suck vs. mass Mutas I totally agree that 6-7 phoenix should be totally able to take on a cloud of 30+ mutas Totally One of the issues, though, is that if you commit too much to phoenix, you're going to get stomped by a by a 40+ larva tech switch.
Yes, completely unlike when a Zerg over commits too much to Corrupters then the Protoss player makes a bunch of Gateway units.
/complain
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/ It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better. You must have a phoenix ball v mutas. we need corsairs honestly. COrsairs are so cool in comparison. I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it. I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs. I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game. I fucking love Corsairs<3 favorite starcraft unit "Today is a good day to die"
"Adun Toridas!!"
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/ It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better. You must have a phoenix ball v mutas. we need corsairs honestly. COrsairs are so cool in comparison. I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it. I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs. I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game. I fucking love Corsairs<3 favorite starcraft unit "Today is a good day to die"
"It is a good day to die."
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Immortal pushes look outdated with viable hydra lategame.
edit: DERP!
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United States97277 Posts
On April 28 2013 07:21 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss How many times has Leenock been past the ro16?
How many times have both players lost in the first round of Code A?
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss How many times has Leenock been past the ro16?
are you really trying to argue that naniwa and leenock have similar gsl results?
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Sorry, I just came back. Who won game 3?
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damn leenock is playing this very smart
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