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On April 28 2013 07:21 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss He got 2nd one time, ro8 once and ro16 a few times. that's a damn few times more than naniwa did
Considering Naniwa hasn't been in Korea for the entire duration of the GSL I'd say its pretty similar.
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Is the stream incredibly laggy right now?
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On April 28 2013 07:22 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:21 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:19 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. They are both extremely skilled. Leenock is a stronger play atm I would say. Leenock is in a better practice environment. Life takes em both down. Life and Leenock trade fairly evenly whenever they meet I'm basing this on results. Life has won too much the past 8 or so months. Guy is on his path to ascension. it's 13-15 or something dude in the past 8 months. selective memory
I know how they are head to head. The other match ups count too, right? Life is a better player overall. And I said Life takes em both down. 15 > 13
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On April 28 2013 07:22 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:21 Daogin wrote:On April 28 2013 07:20 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:19 opterown wrote:On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date. similar results in GSL my asss He got 2nd one time then ro16 a few times. He's made ro8 several times, 2nd in one of the greatest gsl finals ever, ro16 multiple times and code S almost 10 seasons in a row. so 2nd place and ro8 one time.
You don't count being in code S as a result? Naniwa couldn't get back in while leenock is on a 9 streak.
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On April 28 2013 07:22 UberNuB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:20 Absentia wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 Hassybaby wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 freetgy wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 veKtory wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 freetgy wrote:
this is an unwinnable situation right there, despite Naniwa beeing so much ahead and having both Storm and Archons...
Hope balance team was watching. Yea they should really put a cap on the number of bases a Zerg can take. Make them so they can't take more than 3 bases. nope it showed that even with Phoenix Range, PHoenix suck vs. mass Mutas I totally agree that 6-7 phoenix should be totally able to take on a cloud of 30+ mutas Totally One of the issues, though, is that if you commit too much to phoenix, you're going to get stomped by a by a 40+ larva tech switch. Yes, completely unlike when a Zerg over commits too much to Corrupters then the Protoss player makes a bunch of Gateway units. /complain
Last time i checked you can't turn phoenix into siege units.
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On April 28 2013 07:22 Sabu113 wrote:
Immortal pushes look outdated with viable hydra lategame.
HyuN faced against Creator in an online showmatch recently, and he held off Immortal/Sentry with just Ling/Hydra.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IMMORTAL DROP INTO MUTALISKS NONONONOONONONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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On April 28 2013 07:23 Chaoz wrote:
Is the stream incredibly laggy right now?
Works flawlessly over here at the moment.
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On April 28 2013 07:21 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:19 Lunareste wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Wintex wrote:On April 28 2013 07:11 Sabu113 wrote:On April 28 2013 07:09 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Must be damn hard to get a good storm on mutas :/ It's always been hard. that's why fungal is so much better. You must have a phoenix ball v mutas. we need corsairs honestly. COrsairs are so cool in comparison. I just like how corsairs put a soft cap on just building one super mobile unit and running around with it. I mean this game leenock was just way ahead in eco and could throw money at him but it's kinda dumb that you can get a bunch of mutas and kinda amove a highly mobile army around. Not to say 8 range phoenix is a fantastic solution to dealin with moderate sized muta packs. I like valks and corsairs way more than vikings and phoenixes. Those hard counters help the overall game. I fucking love Corsairs<3 favorite starcraft unit "Today is a good day to die"
"It's a good day to die"
Sir, that was a fail
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On April 28 2013 07:18 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:17 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 MuseMike wrote:On April 28 2013 07:15 sitromit wrote:On April 28 2013 07:13 Relaaja wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 Bagi wrote:
What was Naniwas major mistake in this game? Did he need to do more econ damage by harass?
Not balance whining, just trying to understand how this style of PvZ works. Zero mistakes. Protoss just have to play so much better to win zerg. Yeah, because Naniwa is anywhere near Leenock's skill level. I'd say they are pretty close. Nani has faced Leenock in the MLG finals been to ro8 GSL twice won the Blizzard tournament. I would say you're delusional if you think their skill is remotely close. I'd say you were pretty dumb if you think they arent considering they have met in finals of large tournaments before, been to similar results in GSL and are in the finals of one of the most difficult tourneys to date.
One is a player that made it to the GSL finals, and have been in the GSL since the GSL open season 2, and is 1 season away form the Nestea award (10consecutive code S)
The other is a person that got a couple code A seeds, got kicked out, got another code S seed and went to ro8 twice. Then he fell out of GSL completely.
You said what?
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wow naniwa is really pulling the rabbit out of his hat
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I still think a recall was the best decision
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On April 28 2013 07:22 UberNuB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 07:20 Absentia wrote:On April 28 2013 07:17 Hassybaby wrote:On April 28 2013 07:16 freetgy wrote:On April 28 2013 07:14 veKtory wrote:On April 28 2013 07:12 freetgy wrote:
this is an unwinnable situation right there, despite Naniwa beeing so much ahead and having both Storm and Archons...
Hope balance team was watching. Yea they should really put a cap on the number of bases a Zerg can take. Make them so they can't take more than 3 bases. nope it showed that even with Phoenix Range, PHoenix suck vs. mass Mutas I totally agree that 6-7 phoenix should be totally able to take on a cloud of 30+ mutas Totally One of the issues, though, is that if you commit too much to phoenix, you're going to get stomped by a by a 40+ larva tech switch. Yes, completely unlike when a Zerg over commits too much to Corrupters then the Protoss player makes a bunch of Gateway units. /complain
You shouldn't be making corrupters in the first place. 
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On April 28 2013 07:24 Sabu113 wrote:
Why no recall?
It looked good for a while..
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Wow! I can't believe this series!
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EPT
