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Crazy how Hellbat drops are still cost effective despite only being able to drop 2 now
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On April 22 2013 05:09 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:07 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:06 Fusilero wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 Bagration wrote:On April 22 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder if Axiom will get the perfect Premier Division qualification. Heart will have to beat Apocalypse in a rematch and Miya's biggest threat is Comm That would be cool. I wouldn't mind if one or both of the Chinese players made it either I think comm has a nice upset shot at miya. Wait, so he is allowed to continue playing? Nice... or maybe not...? Ah, who cares, definitely good for the chinese community. >.< wait what did i miss? why would he not be allowed to keep playing?
He was locked out from the signup and took over an account of a teammate.
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On April 22 2013 05:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:07 McBengt wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:
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Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid... I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people. I wonder why AxSlav was released... I can't imagine having a professional MLG caster would've ended up doing EG much harm. :/
He was already on iS when he was signed by MLG.
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Hellbats... Ridiculous how much damage they can take
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On April 22 2013 05:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:07 McBengt wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:
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Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid... I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people. I wonder why AxSlav was released... I can't imagine having a professional MLG caster would've ended up doing EG much harm. :/
Well, he was released prior to working for MLG, so there is that.
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On April 22 2013 05:10 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 22 2013 05:07 McBengt wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:
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that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid... I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people. I wonder why AxSlav was released... I can't imagine having a professional MLG caster would've ended up doing EG much harm. :/ He was already on iS when he was signed by MLG.
I'm well aware of this. Maybe EG should've been a little more patient with him, is what I'm suggesting.
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And that's what nony should had done in game 1. Not looking for crazy compositions to stop mech, but stopping mech from getting that composition 
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On April 22 2013 05:10 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:09 Schelim wrote:On April 22 2013 05:07 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:06 Fusilero wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 Bagration wrote:On April 22 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder if Axiom will get the perfect Premier Division qualification. Heart will have to beat Apocalypse in a rematch and Miya's biggest threat is Comm That would be cool. I wouldn't mind if one or both of the Chinese players made it either I think comm has a nice upset shot at miya. Wait, so he is allowed to continue playing? Nice... or maybe not...? Ah, who cares, definitely good for the chinese community. >.< wait what did i miss? why would he not be allowed to keep playing? He was locked out from the signup and took over an account of a teammate.
lol, well that's kinda awkward. on the other hand, not very smart of MLG to not give a guaranteed spot to a rather high-level progamer.
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On April 22 2013 05:09 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:07 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:06 Fusilero wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 Bagration wrote:On April 22 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder if Axiom will get the perfect Premier Division qualification. Heart will have to beat Apocalypse in a rematch and Miya's biggest threat is Comm That would be cool. I wouldn't mind if one or both of the Chinese players made it either I think comm has a nice upset shot at miya. Wait, so he is allowed to continue playing? Nice... or maybe not...? Ah, who cares, definitely good for the chinese community. >.< wait what did i miss? why would he not be allowed to keep playing?
Because Fruitbasket is not him, but a friend (or a fan) of his, who gave him his spot after disappointedly realizing that the top 5 GM account on Korea wasn't invited to play (he signed up, but MLG didn't pass him through check-in).
That shouldn't be a problem in of itself, but apparently they did it during the tournament, after his friend already finished the first round.
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On April 22 2013 05:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:10 AgentW wrote:On April 22 2013 05:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 22 2013 05:07 McBengt wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:
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Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid... I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people. I wonder why AxSlav was released... I can't imagine having a professional MLG caster would've ended up doing EG much harm. :/ He was already on iS when he was signed by MLG. I'm well aware of this. Maybe EG should've been a little more patient with him, is what I'm suggesting.
Perhaps they missed on a nice casting prospect then. They may not have though he had the abilities he does.
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keeps making stalkers in this game too
might be trying to tell us we are stalkers of his progress in wcs
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On April 22 2013 05:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:10 AgentW wrote:On April 22 2013 05:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 22 2013 05:07 McBengt wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:
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Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid... I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people. I wonder why AxSlav was released... I can't imagine having a professional MLG caster would've ended up doing EG much harm. :/ He was already on iS when he was signed by MLG. I'm well aware of this. Maybe EG should've been a little more patient with him, is what I'm suggesting.
This is not the thread for it, but I daresay it is possible to consider Axslav's hiring by MLG a rather large surprise. In any case, if one looks at stream numbers for rules of engagement and compares them to Incontrol's stream, it becomes clear that the two are not very comparable.
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On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:47 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:46 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:42 mememolly wrote:
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he should probably give up his pro spot on EG and give it to some up and comer tbh, maybe be a rep for monster or whatever company wants him to hawk their products to kids How about you leave the management of EG to...well Alex Garfield. Incontrol is still very good and got pretty far in the qualifiers and was knocked down to the losers bracket by a Korean pro. Getting beaten out by a series of hellbat drops is not a bad way to go out. imo it is, especially if that kid is an am who doesn't even get paid to play Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG.
Exactly. Nobody is saying that iNcontroL is a good player, but he and IdrA might very well be the two most valuable players in NA. Regardless is their results they both have significant personalities, and i bet that they have more marketing value than even most of the Koreans.
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Sloppy observer control saved by even sloppier marine micro... >.<
deathpush incoming?
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Why 5 gates? Make 2 roboes nony jeez.
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This push will end the game, one way or another!
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Wow Nony totally butchered that defense. He should have held the ramp...
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On April 22 2013 05:10 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Crazy how Hellbat drops are still cost effective despite only being able to drop 2 now
Because two still instantly kill workers right after beeing dropped off. With four it wasn't stronger against worker but it was almost impossible to get rid of the hellbats .
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We require more macro 
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