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On April 22 2013 05:03 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:02 Sub40APM wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:47 mememolly wrote:
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imo it is, especially if that kid is an am who doesn't even get paid to play Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. is he? maybe he is just really well off and has an expensive hobby. No one really knows how much income EG generates for him. true, a lot of people are naive about how ROI actually works
Especially those that claim that they do on the internet
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On April 22 2013 05:04 Ghanburighan wrote:
Mario's APM saving supply-queue trick ^^
What trick?
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On April 22 2013 05:03 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:02 Sub40APM wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:47 mememolly wrote:
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imo it is, especially if that kid is an am who doesn't even get paid to play Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. is he? maybe he is just really well off and has an expensive hobby. No one really knows how much income EG generates for him. true, a lot of people are naive about how ROI actually works
You are naïve to think that the owner of the team doesn't even know how to track ROI, or tracks it incorrectly just because "no one really knows". Stupid argument to have just because it's not public information.
Mohdo hits it on the head:
I think what you meant to say was "I don't know anything about how much income EG generates for him"
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Darn that's some amazing micro during the battle by Lucifron, just perfect.
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Let's just act like this is the right thread, okay?
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On April 22 2013 05:03 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:02 Sub40APM wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:47 mememolly wrote:
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imo it is, especially if that kid is an am who doesn't even get paid to play Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. is he? maybe he is just really well off and has an expensive hobby. No one really knows how much income EG generates for him. true, a lot of people are naive about how ROI actually works
Your both poorly informed. Alex Garfield formed EG during college and made it into a business after he finished. He isn't well off and funding EG with his personal wealth. He is just better at marketing and getting sponsors than anyone else and knows how to get valuable, marketable players.
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On April 22 2013 05:05 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Darn that's some amazing micro during the battle by Lucifron, just perfect.
Wrong thread? ATC K3 vs Mouz?
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On April 22 2013 05:04 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder if Axiom will get the perfect Premier Division qualification. Heart will have to beat Apocalypse in a rematch and Miya's biggest threat is Comm That would be cool. I wouldn't mind if one or both of the Chinese players made it either
I think comm has a nice upset shot at miya.
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On April 22 2013 05:06 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:05 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Darn that's some amazing micro during the battle by Lucifron, just perfect. Wrong thread? ATC K3 vs Mouz?
Nah, Lucifron pulling a hyun 
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On April 22 2013 05:06 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:04 Bagration wrote:On April 22 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder if Axiom will get the perfect Premier Division qualification. Heart will have to beat Apocalypse in a rematch and Miya's biggest threat is Comm That would be cool. I wouldn't mind if one or both of the Chinese players made it either I think comm has a nice upset shot at miya.
Wait, so he is allowed to continue playing? Nice... or maybe not...? Ah, who cares, definitely good for the chinese community. >.<
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On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:47 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:46 Plansix wrote:
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How about you leave the management of EG to...well Alex Garfield. Incontrol is still very good and got pretty far in the qualifiers and was knocked down to the losers bracket by a Korean pro. Getting beaten out by a series of hellbat drops is not a bad way to go out. imo it is, especially if that kid is an am who doesn't even get paid to play Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid...
I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people.
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Come on, NonY, you can do it, you beat this guy before..
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On April 22 2013 05:05 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:04 Ghanburighan wrote:
Mario's APM saving supply-queue trick ^^ What trick?
He queues up the supply depot when the rax is almost done, so he can focus on getting the orbital or anything else immediately afterwards.
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On April 22 2013 05:05 Schelim wrote:
Mario is probably the only US american i'd actually like to see qualify tbh. not gonna happen though i don't think =/
According to his stream, he lives in the US but he's from Belgium.
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On April 22 2013 05:07 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:06 Bagration wrote:On April 22 2013 05:05 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Darn that's some amazing micro during the battle by Lucifron, just perfect. Wrong thread? ATC K3 vs Mouz? Nah, Lucifron pulling a hyun
I'm waiting for FruitsBasket aka Comm to be revealed to be HyuN this whole time
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On April 22 2013 05:05 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Darn that's some amazing micro during the battle by Lucifron, just perfect.
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Let's just act like this is the right thread, okay?
Lucifron = Mario np 
Would make it less painful for Nony to heh.
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On April 22 2013 05:07 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:05 ZenithM wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 Ghanburighan wrote:
Mario's APM saving supply-queue trick ^^ What trick? He queues up the supply depot when the rax is almost done, so he can focus on getting the orbital or anything else immediately afterwards.
Wow, sick trick. I do that in gold league for more than a year.
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On April 22 2013 05:07 McBengt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:04 JustPassingBy wrote:On April 22 2013 05:01 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 05:00 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:58 Elairec wrote:On April 22 2013 04:57 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:53 mememolly wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 Plansix wrote:On April 22 2013 04:47 mememolly wrote:
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imo it is, especially if that kid is an am who doesn't even get paid to play Well, your opinion matters about as much as everyone else. Which is to say, very little. Alex Garfield will let Incontrol know when he isn't doing well enough, but right now I think he is fine. He ripped through the winners bracket until top and he got beaten out by a very aggressive player who might be pretty talented. that's kind of bad for someone who has played professionally since release but whatever, you will spin his results anyway you want and no one can say anything to convince you otherwise, meh Its ok, you just want to hate on Incontrol and call him a talentless player who should just call himself a caster and little is going to convince you otherwise. regardless his results aren't good for someone who has been living in a pro house and on the biggest team in sc2 since the early days, just saying ROI, just saying. ROI is really hard to track or record, especially for a huge company with its brand in many areas/sports, just saying Alex Garfields is better at this that you are, or anyone else in NA. I am sure he knows exactly how much Incontrol is worth to him and EG. Dunno, sometimes I think that certain decisions - especially when it comes to keeping the current roster - is more based on friendship than anyone else, see how long Tyler, Haypro and Jinro managed to leech off Liquid... I'm sure friendships and team loyalty has some part in it. Alex doesn't strike me as some ruthless venture capitalist who is only interested in profit, as long as the team is doing well I don't see a problem keeping people who may not be top level players but have a lot of history with the team and are good people.
I wonder why AxSlav was released... I can't imagine having a professional MLG caster would've ended up doing EG much harm. :/
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On April 22 2013 05:07 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:06 Fusilero wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 Bagration wrote:On April 22 2013 05:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I wonder if Axiom will get the perfect Premier Division qualification. Heart will have to beat Apocalypse in a rematch and Miya's biggest threat is Comm That would be cool. I wouldn't mind if one or both of the Chinese players made it either I think comm has a nice upset shot at miya. Wait, so he is allowed to continue playing? Nice... or maybe not...? Ah, who cares, definitely good for the chinese community. >.<
wait what did i miss? why would he not be allowed to keep playing?
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On April 22 2013 05:07 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:05 ZenithM wrote:On April 22 2013 05:04 Ghanburighan wrote:
Mario's APM saving supply-queue trick ^^ What trick? He queues up the supply depot when the rax is almost done, so he can focus on getting the orbital or anything else immediately afterwards.
haha
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