EPT[IEM] World Championship Day 5 - Page 106
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:55 Exarl25 wrote: You said TvP not TvZ. But even when talking about TvZ, if you actually believe that the queen patch had more impact on the matchup than the entirety of the HotS changes then you don't even have a functional brain. Thank you! I am talking about what we see in this tournament of course. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:56 FeyFey wrote: You harass them and delay their attack, stopping them from doing damage to you. A good offense can also be a good defense. And if they move out their reinforcements won't come to help with Phoenix on the map. And an addition defensive tool helps you to delay even if the army arrives. Never forget that Phoenix removes Mules from the game. MC's 2 base phoenix play into chargelot archon as you take a third is really, really strong. A lot of protoss at this point are still playing WoL with opening colossi and transitioning to storm after a third. Drops abuse the fuck out of robo openings. | ||
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syroz
France249 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:56 Zorgaz wrote: Yeah, why didn't he fly in with Halu, take the mine shot, then instanly fly in with a real one? Seems odd And use the splash vs the terran mineral line. First seems a bit lost right now. | ||
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:56 Zorgaz wrote: Yeah, why didn't he fly in with Halu, take the mine shot, then instanly fly in with a real one? Seems odd He was trying to mindgame yoda thinking that it was his only one, hoping yoda would move the mines from the mineral line. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:57 nomyx wrote: Much better to complain that mines are imba vs oracles than just using 50 energy to have detection in 10 range In which case the Oracle is still useless, because it can't clear the mine without being killed. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:54 Derez wrote: See mine with fake oracle, wait for cooldown to pass, fly in real oracle. Makes sense. Mindgames. Usually Yoda should move his mine since First now knew where it was, but Yoda knew First anticipated that and just left his mine there :D. | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:58 sitromit wrote: In which case the Oracle is still useless, because it can't clear the mine without being killed. You don't need to kill the mine, kill the workers instead. You stay out of widow mine range, it's wasted supply. If he picks it up and tries to re-burrow, move away. Micro saves your life. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5212 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:58 sitromit wrote: In which case the Oracle is still useless, because it can't clear the mine without being killed. And it won't have the energy to do any decent damage. | ||
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CikaZombi
Serbia630 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:57 nomyx wrote: Much better to complain that mines are imba vs oracles than just using 50 energy to have detection in 10 range Tbh Oracles drain energy so fast that it might not be possible :< Good hallucination timing may be more reliable. But yes if you have energy, that is the correct way to harass with oracles. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland11915 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:55 vthree wrote: With BL/infestor perhaps? What units can zergs build when the push comes at 9:04? Baneling drops, hydras, infestors, take your pick... What makes the push so strong is that zergs feel like it's ok for them to have three bases before gas every game and that they should be able to counter the biggest hard counter to it. If anything, the immortal sentry push wasn't strong enough, cause zergs were still able to win with greediest build vs most all-in build. But yeah PM me if you wish to talk more about this | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:58 Sapphire.lux wrote: Thank you! I am talking about what we see in this tournament of course. What...? I give up, you have to be trolling me. | ||
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une_certaine_verve
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:58 sitromit wrote: In which case the Oracle is still useless, because it can't clear the mine without being killed. 2 Oracles and a Hallucination could clean it up. But yeah 1 oracle can't kill a widow mine itself. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:59 nomyx wrote: You don't need to kill the mine, kill the workers instead. You stay out of widow mine range, it's wasted supply. If he picks it up and tries to re-burrow, move away. Micro saves your life. Oracles have shorter range than the mine, right? If you stay out of its range, you're not going to kill much. | ||
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Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote: crappy, one sided finals  terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patchI really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes. | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 10 2013 01:00 sitromit wrote: Oracles have shorter range than the mine, right? If you stay out of its range, you're not going to kill much. mine is 5 and oracle is 5. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On March 10 2013 01:00 Nebuchad wrote: Baneling drops, infestors, take your pick... What makes the push so strong is that zergs feel like it's ok for them to have three bases before gas every game and that they should be able to counter the biggest hard counter to it. If anything, the immortal sentry push wasn't strong enough, cause zergs were still able to win with greediest build vs most all-in build. But yeah PM me if you wish to talk more about this You don't play zerg do you... | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5212 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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