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On March 10 2013 00:49 Cyrak wrote:
Even if you know that the Terran is coming with this, when he is coming and where he is dropping it is still hard to even break even against it. That is antithetical to how RTS games are supposed to work. Artosis alluded to this as well.
Perhaps it is too early to judge the strength of this, but if it is still playing this way in a few months then we may have a problem!
Really? How about the sentry-immortal? Zergs know it is coming a mile away...
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On March 10 2013 00:48 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol Complete bullshit. Name that patch. It's like this thread is full of people who have never seen a game of HotS before this.
Queen change for TvZ. There are others i'm sure.
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On March 10 2013 00:49 syroz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:45 PetitCop wrote:
Those drops seem to safe vs protoss low anti air dps. Yeah. But iam sure that stargate opener can be really relevant here. One oracle to harass, a handfull of phoenix to handle drops, VR for viking and cover colossi. They need new builds.
can you get a oracle, a void ray, 5 phoenix and colossi out before that? thats a lot of money, i wasnt watching really so i dont know when the attack hit
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On March 10 2013 00:48 Bowzar wrote:
Whoever wins will give zero shit. Best award ceremony ever incoming?
Yea, I usually give zero shit about gaining 15000 USD too. Not to mention it would be Yoda's first tournament win ever.
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On March 10 2013 00:50 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:49 syroz wrote:On March 10 2013 00:45 PetitCop wrote:
Those drops seem to safe vs protoss low anti air dps. Yeah. But iam sure that stargate opener can be really relevant here. One oracle to harass, a handfull of phoenix to handle drops, VR for viking and cover colossi. They need new builds. Bio crushes us so much that we barely hold the timings when teching to our aoe, what do you think will happen when we get phoenixes before aoe?
Playing more defensively maybe on 2 base for a while. Idk, just thinking about it 
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On March 10 2013 00:50 Misoza wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:48 JinDesu wrote:On March 10 2013 00:48 Exarl25 wrote:On March 10 2013 00:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol Complete bullshit. Name that patch. It's like this thread is full of people who have never seen a game of HotS before this. Barracks require supply depot~ Also the stim research time nerf.
Don't forget the patch that gave +60 shields to warp prism, +1 range to immortal, and 5 extra seconds to rax.
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On March 10 2013 00:50 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:49 Cyrak wrote:
Even if you know that the Terran is coming with this, when he is coming and where he is dropping it is still hard to even break even against it. That is antithetical to how RTS games are supposed to work. Artosis alluded to this as well.
Perhaps it is too early to judge the strength of this, but if it is still playing this way in a few months then we may have a problem! Really? How about the sentry-immortal? Zergs know it is coming a mile away...
I agree with you. Now what?
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On March 10 2013 00:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:48 Exarl25 wrote:On March 10 2013 00:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol Complete bullshit. Name that patch. It's like this thread is full of people who have never seen a game of HotS before this. Yea this whining seems like people jsut decided to watch this one series and bitch. Playing on the beta ladder PvT was a completely different match up for me to play out then WoL between early game mines/reapers mid game speedvacs, potential for mech. Mech vs Toss hasn't really been shown yet but once the pro's get used to playing mech it will be strong
People will do anything to bitch about something to feel right, really sad tbh.
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On March 10 2013 00:48 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol Complete bullshit. Name that patch. It's like this thread is full of people who have never seen a game of HotS before this.
Bunker build time patch.
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On March 10 2013 00:51 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:49 syroz wrote:On March 10 2013 00:45 PetitCop wrote:
Those drops seem to safe vs protoss low anti air dps. Yeah. But iam sure that stargate opener can be really relevant here. One oracle to harass, a handfull of phoenix to handle drops, VR for viking and cover colossi. They need new builds. can you get a oracle, a void ray, 5 phoenix and colossi out before that? thats a lot of money, i wasnt watching really so i dont know when the attack hit
Not in that order. 1 oracle, few phoenix to harass then tech. And terrans is going to need units to defend.
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On March 10 2013 00:50 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:49 Cyrak wrote:
Even if you know that the Terran is coming with this, when he is coming and where he is dropping it is still hard to even break even against it. That is antithetical to how RTS games are supposed to work. Artosis alluded to this as well.
Perhaps it is too early to judge the strength of this, but if it is still playing this way in a few months then we may have a problem! Really? How about the sentry-immortal? Zergs know it is coming a mile away...
Yeah? How come you only have roaches and lings when we arrive then, when the push is basically made to crush roaches and lings? Maybe you should have taken that time when you see it coming to prepare against it.
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On March 10 2013 00:52 Cyrak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:50 vthree wrote:On March 10 2013 00:49 Cyrak wrote:
Even if you know that the Terran is coming with this, when he is coming and where he is dropping it is still hard to even break even against it. That is antithetical to how RTS games are supposed to work. Artosis alluded to this as well.
Perhaps it is too early to judge the strength of this, but if it is still playing this way in a few months then we may have a problem! Really? How about the sentry-immortal? Zergs know it is coming a mile away... I agree with you. Now what?
blade55555 has proven that swarm hosts are extremely effective at dealing with the wonwonwon
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wow, hallucination makes the mine blow and make damage to the mineral line? Cool
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On March 10 2013 00:52 vrok wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:48 Exarl25 wrote:On March 10 2013 00:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol Complete bullshit. Name that patch. It's like this thread is full of people who have never seen a game of HotS before this. Bunker build time patch. + Show Spoiler +
Which one?
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I really dont think widow mines should shoot air, let alone one shot a 300/200? unit
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Those mines are a bit too strong ...
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