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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2021
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2022
On March 10 2013 00:40 Killmouse wrote:
why dont terran go mech vs P?


Bio is easier, especially for Koreans who prefered Bio over Mech for almost always.


I think we well see a Vin Diesel Upgrade soon for Medivacs tor reduce the early game strength.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2023
On March 10 2013 00:44 Archybaldie wrote:
I play protoss, is it odd that i really really cant wait to be trying to deal with speedyvacs.


Probably. I'm fucking terrified.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2024
Speed had nothing to do with that, First just defended terribly.
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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2025
You guys remember Flash vs Rain in code A? Now imagine Flash with speedivacs.
It's good to be back
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2026
Medivacs...medivacs everywhere...and i fucking hate them...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10121 Posts
March 09 2013 15:44 GMT
#2027
damn that YoDa!... i cant see the medivac speed lasting too long. Terran should burrow a mine in a corner of the 3rd or natural and wait for saturation and BOOM"
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2028
And the Terran viewers scream NO! Another IM Terran is gonna get our race nerfed into the ground
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2029
On March 10 2013 00:44 Archybaldie wrote:
I play protoss, is it odd that i really really cant wait to be trying to deal with speedyvacs.


Hahaha... I thought the same thing when I played Beta. But then I played versus speed Medivacs.
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2030
This is best of 7 ?
PetitCop
Profile Joined February 2013
France43 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2031
Those drops seem to safe vs protoss low anti air dps.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2032
On March 10 2013 00:44 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:40 Killmouse wrote:
why dont terran go mech vs P?


Medivac harass has been the deciding factor in almost every TvP YoDa played thus far. You can't do that with mech.

ofc u can? u do realize widow mines is a factory unit? also u can do hellion speedy drops
yo
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2033
On March 10 2013 00:44 syroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:42 Zheryn wrote:
I really don't see how you're supposed to defend vs speedivacs without losing stuff if terran controls properly.


Play less greedy first.

lol
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2034
On March 10 2013 00:45 Omri wrote:
This is best of 7 ?

Yeah.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
March 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#2035
PvT is going to be an extremely frustrating matchup in the next few weeks.
You're now breathing manually
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12484 Posts
March 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2036
On March 10 2013 00:44 syroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:42 Zheryn wrote:
I really don't see how you're supposed to defend vs speedivacs without losing stuff if terran controls properly.


Play less greedy first.


Yeah =) Yoda has his 3rd before us and is never in any kind of danger...
Once we lose the macro game cause we played less greedy and got overwhelmed, are you going to say that we should have played more greedy?^^

It's true that First should have defended better there, but I think his build was good.
No will to live, no wish to die
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
March 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2037
On March 10 2013 00:45 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:45 Omri wrote:
This is best of 7 ?

Yeah.


Thanks.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
March 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2038
I am gonna hate Yoda so much if he wins this.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2039
On March 10 2013 00:41 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:40 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:33 Arco wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:29 Alexj wrote:
If an engagement between P and T goes for too long, P can't stand a chance. P needs aoe against T's bio reinforcement, but it takes too long to get it

Haha, what? He was researching Storm at 20 minutes after Terran was already launching his 2/2 timing and almost at 3/3. He had plenty of time. Really bad build order from First.


i think u dont understand the meaning of "engagement"

I don't think you read his post or understood mine.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:40 Alexj wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:33 Arco wrote:
Haha, what? He was researching Storm at 20 minutes after Terran was already launching his 2/2 timing and almost at 3/3. He had plenty of time. Really bad build order from First.

What does timing of storm research do with anything? That last battle lasted a good minute, vikings/ghosts and colossi/templars were cancelled pretty fast. Then terran just reinforced with stronger units (P can't reinforce with templars, since if he doesn't morph them into archons, he won't survive long enough to get energy for storm. One colossus got out during the battle, but colossi can't do shit without support)

You can't stop a good 2/2 timing with only Colossus for splash damage. Storm is needed too. You proved my point -- his Templar came too late, so he couldn't reinforce with Templar. If he had it earlier, he'd have more Templar gathering energy for defense.


You are completely failing to understand what he is talking about. If the fight itself drags on for too long then the Protoss AoE is exhausted (Colossi killed, HT run out of energy) and cannot easily be replaced. Colossi take a while to build, HT take a while to build up energy. So the Protoss is left reinforcing with just basic Gateway units and Archons against a stream of bio which inevitably starts snowballing out of control as without AoE Protoss are fighting a losing battle.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 09 2013 15:46 GMT
#2040
On March 10 2013 00:42 Zheryn wrote:
I really don't see how you're supposed to defend vs speedivacs without losing stuff if terran controls properly.


Cannon up or go for Phoenix and chase down the Speedvac and lift the Mines before they burrow. Can even go for Oracle first to punish the Terran if they are greedy.
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