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Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#741
Those medivacs are such a pain O_o If the Terran follows up with mines I don't see a ling/bane composition working out .
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 10:28:29
March 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#742
Ok I am really getting sick of seeing every single zerg in hots going for infestor/bl/corruptor. Jesus christ please stop I am so glad it's counterable in hots gogo dream!

Broodlords into ultra I can see, but going pure wol late game is irritating me to no end -_-.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#743
That was a really nice tank spread by Dream....
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#744
On March 07 2013 19:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:25 n0ise wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


he dropped from code A by losing to?


SoO, who just qualified for Code S through up/downs yesterday. Clearly Mvp is just a scrub now rite guise

plus he played much worse in those games than in the games he played today (imo)
Maruprime.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#745
On March 07 2013 19:26 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:18 Bagi wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 Solarist wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:10 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:07 dcemuser wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Okay great play by MVP but looking at his usage of speed medivacs... How does terran lose with that unit, the mobility is retarded.


Because it requires absolutely stupid amounts of micro to use the way MVP did.

I seriously doubt the imbalance extends beyond the top tier pros.


Well but that's what it is about, the game has to be balanced around Flash, Rain and Roro.

Now Flash with these medivacs is not balanced.


And you know that how? Are you some kind of oracle who just KNOWS that people wont be able to defend these drops once they learn to deal with it? Btw im considering playing the lottery, can you inbox me the winning numbers please?


Well everyone basically agreed on this after the last rain vs flash games in code A. Sorry I never win a thing and don't play the lottery^^.

"Everyone basically agreed", well that's enough to convince me. The amazingly insightful hivemind called something imba, they must be correct.


Okay let me elaborate. Blizzards argument for the new ability is that drops are figured out and are no longer viable. But they want to see drops so they buffed medivacs. Now Flash showcased that terrans can still dismantle their opponents completely with normal medivac drops if timed correctly and executed by one of the best. So if Rain had no chance defending it without speedboost imagine it in hots. That's what "everyone agreed on" but let's just wait and see and enjoy the games as they are right now. Looking forward to players adapting their drop defense as the tournament goes on.

You are making whole arguments about 1 match from code A. Don't you think that is kinda silly?
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#746
On March 07 2013 19:26 Everlong wrote:
Well, at this point, going bio only for medivac speed and completely ignore widow mine, hellbat, thor's aa, shared mech/air upgrade is kinda telling that medivac speed is a bit "too" good..

I think it has more to do that you can use strategies that are tried and proven instead of going mech with many new unpredictable units.

People have had very little time to practice HOTS and they are there to win money, not to entertain us with wild new strategies.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#747
TLO was the last player I thought would do broodlord infestor.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#748
On March 07 2013 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
Ok I am really getting sick of seeing every single zerg in hots going for infestor/bl/corruptor. Jesus christ please stop I am so glad it's counterable in hots gogo dream!

Broodlords into ultra I can see, but going pure wol late game is irritating me to no end -_-.


Funny because TLO has been playing HotS the longest O.o.
Never make a hydralisk.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#749
You're not allowed to balance whine until you get a mirror match-up in a major final for six months straight.

That's happened twice in SC2 history, but we still got time with HotS.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#750
On March 07 2013 19:29 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:26 Everlong wrote:
Well, at this point, going bio only for medivac speed and completely ignore widow mine, hellbat, thor's aa, shared mech/air upgrade is kinda telling that medivac speed is a bit "too" good..

I think it has more to do that you can use strategies that are tried and proven instead of going mech with many new unpredictable units.

People have had very little time to practice HOTS and they are there to win money, not to entertain us with wild new strategies.


That is fair point, thanks.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#751
TLO just got abused..
Sad for him :/ but man, he didnt stand a chance
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#752
dream tried to drink from that bottle and was unscrewing the cap then suddenly stopped ahahahha
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 07 2013 10:29 GMT
#753
On March 07 2013 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
Ok I am really getting sick of seeing every single zerg in hots going for infestor/bl/corruptor. Jesus christ please stop I am so glad it's counterable in hots gogo dream!

Broodlords into ultra I can see, but going pure wol late game is irritating me to no end -_-.


Broods into ultras seem like a waste of time to me against Bio. Just go Ultras.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#754
On March 07 2013 19:27 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:25 n0ise wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


he dropped from code A by losing to?


To soo, who is in code s now


He dropped out of Code A by losing to a good Zerg in WoL, I'll forgive him. If he doesn't re qualify it will be a different story though.
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#755
On March 07 2013 19:28 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:26 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:18 Bagi wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 Solarist wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:10 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:07 dcemuser wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Okay great play by MVP but looking at his usage of speed medivacs... How does terran lose with that unit, the mobility is retarded.


Because it requires absolutely stupid amounts of micro to use the way MVP did.

I seriously doubt the imbalance extends beyond the top tier pros.


Well but that's what it is about, the game has to be balanced around Flash, Rain and Roro.

Now Flash with these medivacs is not balanced.


And you know that how? Are you some kind of oracle who just KNOWS that people wont be able to defend these drops once they learn to deal with it? Btw im considering playing the lottery, can you inbox me the winning numbers please?


Well everyone basically agreed on this after the last rain vs flash games in code A. Sorry I never win a thing and don't play the lottery^^.

"Everyone basically agreed", well that's enough to convince me. The amazingly insightful hivemind called something imba, they must be correct.


Okay let me elaborate. Blizzards argument for the new ability is that drops are figured out and are no longer viable. But they want to see drops so they buffed medivacs. Now Flash showcased that terrans can still dismantle their opponents completely with normal medivac drops if timed correctly and executed by one of the best. So if Rain had no chance defending it without speedboost imagine it in hots. That's what "everyone agreed on" but let's just wait and see and enjoy the games as they are right now. Looking forward to players adapting their drop defense as the tournament goes on.

You are making whole arguments about 1 match from code A. Don't you think that is kinda silly?

Its not just him "Everyone basicly agreed" with him! The data is there mate!
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#756
the only thing i'll give forumzergs is I don't get all the infestors nerfs, which weren't really the (core) problem even in wol

wouldn't be the worst to maybe give them their +1 range back
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#757
On March 07 2013 19:28 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:27 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:25 n0ise wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


he dropped from code A by losing to?


SoO, who just qualified for Code S through up/downs yesterday. Clearly Mvp is just a scrub now rite guise

plus he played much worse in those games than in the games he played today (imo)


Yeah Mvp looked pretty dreadful in those games, definitely not GSL winning-level of play.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#758
TLO pulling an Xlord / Snute, will he be 0-5 by the end or will he step it up?
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 10:30:51
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#759
On March 07 2013 19:27 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
TLO Going BLord infestor... ;_;


When in doubt...


Seems to be the case with many foreign zergs, it's like some natural response to being under threat. It was such an easy way out in WoL but i'm glad that's not the case here.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#760
Korean Terrans are raping face as usual.
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