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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#761
On March 07 2013 19:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
Ok I am really getting sick of seeing every single zerg in hots going for infestor/bl/corruptor. Jesus christ please stop I am so glad it's counterable in hots gogo dream!

Broodlords into ultra I can see, but going pure wol late game is irritating me to no end -_-.


Broods into ultras seem like a waste of time to me against Bio. Just go Ultras.


Actually it's not. terran can still get an anti ultra army even with the ultra buff, going the broodlords makes terran make a ton more marines and then vikings, then the ultra switch is super strong :D.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 10:31:45
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#762
Great game by Dream, not much else to add. TLO still playing WOL Zerg which is bad considering Infestors are not a super unit anymore.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#763
On March 07 2013 19:26 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:18 Bagi wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 Solarist wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:10 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:07 dcemuser wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Okay great play by MVP but looking at his usage of speed medivacs... How does terran lose with that unit, the mobility is retarded.


Because it requires absolutely stupid amounts of micro to use the way MVP did.

I seriously doubt the imbalance extends beyond the top tier pros.


Well but that's what it is about, the game has to be balanced around Flash, Rain and Roro.

Now Flash with these medivacs is not balanced.


And you know that how? Are you some kind of oracle who just KNOWS that people wont be able to defend these drops once they learn to deal with it? Btw im considering playing the lottery, can you inbox me the winning numbers please?


Well everyone basically agreed on this after the last rain vs flash games in code A. Sorry I never win a thing and don't play the lottery^^.

"Everyone basically agreed", well that's enough to convince me. The amazingly insightful hivemind called something imba, they must be correct.


Okay let me elaborate. Blizzards argument for the new ability is that drops are figured out and are no longer viable. But they want to see drops so they buffed medivacs. Now Flash showcased that terrans can still dismantle their opponents completely with normal medivac drops if timed correctly and executed by one of the best. So if Rain had no chance defending it without speedboost imagine it in hots. That's what "everyone agreed on" but let's just wait and see and enjoy the games as they are right now. Looking forward to players adapting their drop defense as the tournament goes on.


This would make sense if it was a HoTS terran was play a WoL Protoss. Protoss also got some defensive units/spells to work with.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#764
On March 07 2013 19:30 n0ise wrote:
the only thing i'll give forumzergs is I don't get all the infestors nerfs, which weren't really the (core) problem even in wol

wouldn't be the worst to maybe give them their +1 range back


they have 10range in HotS... not 8like in WoL
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 07 2013 10:30 GMT
#765
On March 07 2013 19:30 n0ise wrote:
the only thing i'll give forumzergs is I don't get all the infestors nerfs, which weren't really the (core) problem even in wol

wouldn't be the worst to maybe give them their +1 range back


HotS fungal is 10 range, WoL fungal is 8.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#766
really surprised TLO of all people played broodlord infestor there
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
March 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#767
On March 07 2013 19:30 n0ise wrote:
the only thing i'll give forumzergs is I don't get all the infestors nerfs, which weren't really the (core) problem even in wol

wouldn't be the worst to maybe give them their +1 range back

In HotS fungal is 10 range
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
March 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#768
This is a joke. Dont know what you could have done better here. He defended the drops as good as you can, he had the best eco you could have had at that point, the composition was good. But you just cant defend cost efficient against this constant stream of marines...
Germany
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#769
On March 07 2013 19:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:28 blade55555 wrote:
Ok I am really getting sick of seeing every single zerg in hots going for infestor/bl/corruptor. Jesus christ please stop I am so glad it's counterable in hots gogo dream!

Broodlords into ultra I can see, but going pure wol late game is irritating me to no end -_-.


Broods into ultras seem like a waste of time to me against Bio. Just go Ultras.


and don't forget lings/banes + caster supports. In HotS I see so many zergs going pure ultra it's painful -.-
Terran & Potato Salad.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#770
A wild targa appears?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#771
On March 07 2013 19:30 nomyx wrote:
TLO pulling an Xlord / Snute, will he be 0-5 by the end or will he step it up?


I think he will beat Grubby!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#772
On March 07 2013 19:30 n0ise wrote:
the only thing i'll give forumzergs is I don't get all the infestors nerfs, which weren't really the (core) problem even in wol

They countered everything. People made 30+ of them as an army. How was it not a problem?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#773
On March 07 2013 19:31 azzih wrote:
This is a joke. Dont know what you could have done better here. He defended the drops as good as you can, he had the best eco you could have had at that point, the composition was good. But you just cant defend cost efficient against this constant stream of marines...

hahaha, it's 2010 all over again!!
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#774
Sad day in Germany . There is still a shred of hope however.
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#775
On March 07 2013 19:30 n0ise wrote:
the only thing i'll give forumzergs is I don't get all the infestors nerfs, which weren't really the (core) problem even in wol

wouldn't be the worst to maybe give them their +1 range back


Isn't fungal growth range in HOTS 10? Its longer than even the preWOL range nerf.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#776
ah cool, thanks for the clearup - I saw TLO pull back his infestors when Dream's marines were super clumped, maybe it was a miscontrol or something
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#777
Seems like Liquid, particularly the foreign contingent, is so shaky now with so many people leaving, taking breaks or retiring. And those who are left are not really putting up results. A shame, must be tough to be a liquid fan.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#778
On March 07 2013 19:31 azzih wrote:
This is a joke. Dont know what you could have done better here. He defended the drops as good as you can, he had the best eco you could have had at that point, the composition was good. But you just cant defend cost efficient against this constant stream of marines...

marine op
Maruprime.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#779
On March 07 2013 19:30 FakeDeath wrote:
Korean Terrans are raping face as usual.


Korean Terrans players.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#780
On March 07 2013 19:27 kusto wrote:
TLO going full foreigner into gg.


hehe, this made me laugh
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
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