• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:19
CEST 00:19
KST 07:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event10Serral wins EWC 202546Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Real talk: we need to stop nerfing everything
Tourneys
Global Tourney for College Students in September RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
StarCon Philadelphia ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Simultaneous Streaming by CasterMuse
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 682 users

[IEM] World Championship Day 3 - Page 37

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 168 Next
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 07 2013 10:25 GMT
#721
On March 07 2013 19:22 Fionn wrote:
The funniest thing about people balance whining is that if Stephano/Dream/Mvp all end up in the top three, we'll have 4 of each race in the knockout rounds.

And we also currently have a member of each race winning a group from the first three groups.

Who would have thought that Mvp could beat Grubby. Balance that shit.

But the zergs qualifying will be foreigners. And we all know what that means.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 07 2013 10:25 GMT
#722
On March 07 2013 19:21 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:18 Poopi wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Foreigner Terrans been playing HotS longer yet have awful records at IEM, couldn't they just use their magic I Win Ships to maybe pick up some victories? I mean come on. MVP would have beaten Grubby in WoL after that DT kill starsense anyway.

LucifroN didn't play much HotS. Otherwise they would have destroyed.


Uh people were saying he was top 50 hots beta with the barcode O_o (and top 50 is really hard to do at the end of hots ^^).

3weeks ago, Lucifron was one of three who disliked the "old" idea from IEM (WOL tournament and only grandfinal is HotS), because trained 100% WoL for this tournament.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 07 2013 10:25 GMT
#723
On March 07 2013 19:24 ETisME wrote:
we are very likely gonna get overly hyped for TLO because of the casters and then fully disappoint when the action picks up


he is already quite behind were he should be in the eco...
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 07 2013 10:25 GMT
#724
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


he dropped from code A by losing to?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
March 07 2013 10:25 GMT
#725
TLO Going BLord infestor... ;_;
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
March 07 2013 10:26 GMT
#726
And another zerg going onceagain for broodlords... What the fuck : (

Why would you go BL against speedyvacs... You need a fast army...
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12193 Posts
March 07 2013 10:26 GMT
#727
On March 07 2013 19:24 unteqair wrote:
People get livid every time a Protoss loses. That won't ever change.


Yeah please enlighten us as to how your race is different since you're so much above us.
No will to live, no wish to die
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 07 2013 10:26 GMT
#728
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


Doesn't matter. This is how Mvp was throughout most of last year. He can look terrible at times, but can really pull himself together for really strong tournament runs in between. Probably due to how much he's been training due to his injuries, but it's quite clear he looks in good touch atm. if you can't see past the speedmedivacs, then you're not watching hard enough.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 07 2013 10:26 GMT
#729
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


Even if he isn't the best Terran, he's still one a top level Korean going up against a very good, but not elite foreigner. I love Grubby and think he's a top player, but he still hasn't won a major tournament (from my knowledge) and isn't a world beater.

Anyone whining about balance when a member of each race has won a group so far seems ridiculous.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 07 2013 10:26 GMT
#730
On March 07 2013 19:18 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 Solarist wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:10 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:07 dcemuser wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Okay great play by MVP but looking at his usage of speed medivacs... How does terran lose with that unit, the mobility is retarded.


Because it requires absolutely stupid amounts of micro to use the way MVP did.

I seriously doubt the imbalance extends beyond the top tier pros.


Well but that's what it is about, the game has to be balanced around Flash, Rain and Roro.

Now Flash with these medivacs is not balanced.


And you know that how? Are you some kind of oracle who just KNOWS that people wont be able to defend these drops once they learn to deal with it? Btw im considering playing the lottery, can you inbox me the winning numbers please?


Well everyone basically agreed on this after the last rain vs flash games in code A. Sorry I never win a thing and don't play the lottery^^.

"Everyone basically agreed", well that's enough to convince me. The amazingly insightful hivemind called something imba, they must be correct.


Okay let me elaborate. Blizzards argument for the new ability is that drops are figured out and are no longer viable. But they want to see drops so they buffed medivacs. Now Flash showcased that terrans can still dismantle their opponents completely with normal medivac drops if timed correctly and executed by one of the best. So if Rain had no chance defending it without speedboost imagine it in hots. That's what "everyone agreed on" but let's just wait and see and enjoy the games as they are right now. Looking forward to players adapting their drop defense as the tournament goes on.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 07 2013 10:26 GMT
#731
Well, at this point, going bio only for medivac speed and completely ignore widow mine, hellbat, thor's aa, shared mech/air upgrade is kinda telling that medivac speed is a bit "too" good..
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#732
On March 07 2013 19:25 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


he dropped from code A by losing to?


SoO, who just qualified for Code S through up/downs yesterday. Clearly Mvp is just a scrub now rite guise
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#733
On March 07 2013 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
TLO Going BLord infestor... ;_;


When in doubt...
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#734
TLO playing this exactly like it was WOL.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#735
On March 07 2013 19:25 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.


he dropped from code A by losing to?


To soo, who is in code s now
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#736
On March 07 2013 19:21 Mellon wrote:
Mvp is not the best terran player in the world guys.. He dropped out of Code A less than a month ago. Stop justifying something that probably is too strong by saying "it's MVP". He was the most consistent player in wol for sure, amazing the first years, but to say it's fine because it's in the hand of Mvp is wrong.

Actually, considering the current situation i wouldn't be surprised if he is the best HoTS terran atm. Don't forget that a big part of his strength is from his ability to do everything and his great decision making.
Now combine that with a new game that is not figured out and Mvp gets a massive boost.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#737
On March 07 2013 19:27 Bagi wrote:
TLO playing this exactly like it was WOL.


Because Dream playes absolutely like WoL as well..
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#738
God, who is observing?
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
March 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#739
TLO going full foreigner into gg.
the game is the game
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12399 Posts
March 07 2013 10:28 GMT
#740
On March 07 2013 19:25 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:24 ETisME wrote:
we are very likely gonna get overly hyped for TLO because of the casters and then fully disappoint when the action picks up


he is already quite behind were he should be in the eco...

lol i guess the game will be over before we get too hyped
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 168 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ForJumy 91
CosmosSc2 51
PiGStarcraft17
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 740
firebathero 125
sSak 85
ggaemo 63
HiyA 17
Stormgate
Nathanias181
Dota 2
syndereN591
capcasts228
League of Legends
JimRising 297
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu528
Khaldor191
Other Games
summit1g6114
Grubby2454
tarik_tv757
C9.Mang0230
Hui .199
ZombieGrub108
JuggernautJason40
Maynarde13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV48
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta41
• RyuSc2 40
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 30
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade819
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur216
Other Games
• imaqtpie2186
• Scarra1321
• WagamamaTV209
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 41m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
12h 41m
RSL Revival
18h 41m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 1h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 12h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.