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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 07 2013 10:34 GMT
#801
gogo grubby~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
March 07 2013 10:34 GMT
#802
On March 07 2013 19:26 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:18 Bagi wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 Solarist wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:10 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:07 dcemuser wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Okay great play by MVP but looking at his usage of speed medivacs... How does terran lose with that unit, the mobility is retarded.


Because it requires absolutely stupid amounts of micro to use the way MVP did.

I seriously doubt the imbalance extends beyond the top tier pros.


Well but that's what it is about, the game has to be balanced around Flash, Rain and Roro.

Now Flash with these medivacs is not balanced.


And you know that how? Are you some kind of oracle who just KNOWS that people wont be able to defend these drops once they learn to deal with it? Btw im considering playing the lottery, can you inbox me the winning numbers please?


Well everyone basically agreed on this after the last rain vs flash games in code A. Sorry I never win a thing and don't play the lottery^^.

"Everyone basically agreed", well that's enough to convince me. The amazingly insightful hivemind called something imba, they must be correct.


Okay let me elaborate. Blizzards argument for the new ability is that drops are figured out and are no longer viable. But they want to see drops so they buffed medivacs. Now Flash showcased that terrans can still dismantle their opponents completely with normal medivac drops if timed correctly and executed by one of the best. So if Rain had no chance defending it without speedboost imagine it in hots. That's what "everyone agreed on" but let's just wait and see and enjoy the games as they are right now. Looking forward to players adapting their drop defense as the tournament goes on.

Rain didn't play well these games, it's like you are saying a terran should not ever be able to beat a protoss with drop, wtf?
Rain and Flash were both doing quite bad in proleague (relative to their standards), a protoss more in form could have beaten Flash so what's your point. Two games ain't enough to prove anything anyways.
WriterMaru
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#803
4 races: Protoss, Zerg, Terran, and Korean Terran.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#804
is that goody?
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#805
lol.. epic intro.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#806
On March 07 2013 19:28 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 19:26 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:18 Bagi wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:13 Solarist wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:10 Musicus wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:07 dcemuser wrote:
On March 07 2013 19:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Okay great play by MVP but looking at his usage of speed medivacs... How does terran lose with that unit, the mobility is retarded.


Because it requires absolutely stupid amounts of micro to use the way MVP did.

I seriously doubt the imbalance extends beyond the top tier pros.


Well but that's what it is about, the game has to be balanced around Flash, Rain and Roro.

Now Flash with these medivacs is not balanced.


And you know that how? Are you some kind of oracle who just KNOWS that people wont be able to defend these drops once they learn to deal with it? Btw im considering playing the lottery, can you inbox me the winning numbers please?


Well everyone basically agreed on this after the last rain vs flash games in code A. Sorry I never win a thing and don't play the lottery^^.

"Everyone basically agreed", well that's enough to convince me. The amazingly insightful hivemind called something imba, they must be correct.


Okay let me elaborate. Blizzards argument for the new ability is that drops are figured out and are no longer viable. But they want to see drops so they buffed medivacs. Now Flash showcased that terrans can still dismantle their opponents completely with normal medivac drops if timed correctly and executed by one of the best. So if Rain had no chance defending it without speedboost imagine it in hots. That's what "everyone agreed on" but let's just wait and see and enjoy the games as they are right now. Looking forward to players adapting their drop defense as the tournament goes on.

You are making whole arguments about 1 match from code A. Don't you think that is kinda silly?


No I don't think it's ever silly to think about what might be and discuss things with other people. I am not balance whining or getting mad about it. Everyone knows the game is not balanced right now. I very much enjoy seeing OP things used and watch the best players show what might be OP. That's exactly why this tournament and the early phase of Hots is so interesting. I am still allowed to tlak about it or voice my opinion right? I am not trying to offend anybody^^. TLO said on his stream something like: "Early tournaments are all about finding what's OP and abusing it as much as possible before it gets patched", when I asked him why he plays so many swarmhost all ins zvp . And that's fun I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#807
On March 07 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
You're not allowed to balance whine until you get a mirror match-up in a major final for six months straight.

That's happened twice in SC2 history, but we still got time with HotS.


So I take it the TL writing staff is going to take its usual approach after IEM and not comment about the game so recently out of beta.

Wouldn't have hurt to be ahead of story (which definitely does not exist yet. Yes, 1 tournament does not make a case). Then again Tree hugger vanished to tlpro after dead presidents
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#808
On March 07 2013 19:34 syroz wrote:
If Stephano Dream and Mvp go throught (seems in good way) it will be the more "Balance" championship ever! 4z4t4p. Good job Blizzard :D


It's crazy to think this is the case all considering. :D
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gazageiras
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland242 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#809
On March 07 2013 19:35 nomyx wrote:
is that goody?

You mean TargA?
Gojii
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium317 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#810
Stephano vs Grubby could be a lot of fun :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#811
Go Stephanooooo+ Show Spoiler [ooooo] +
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:D
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 10:36:07
March 07 2013 10:35 GMT
#812
On March 07 2013 19:35 Thrillz wrote:
4 races: Protoss, Zerg, Terran, and Korean Terran.


To be fair there's a huuuuugeeee gap between foreign and korean protoss too. Terran more so tho.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#813
epic save rachel
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#814
Grubby never wins against Stephano, but maybe now is the time! Gogo
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8594 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#815
On March 07 2013 19:35 CCa1ss1e wrote:
lol.. epic intro.


indeed :D
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#816
Does anyone know why Targa is there? Representing a personal sponsor, perhaps?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#817
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Bullet
Profile Joined June 2010
United States280 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#818
lol, wings of liberty...
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#819
On March 07 2013 19:36 Hylirion wrote:
Grubby never wins against Stephano, but maybe now is the time! Gogo


The times are changing! This is a new game.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 07 2013 10:36 GMT
#820
Grubby never beats Stephizzle :/
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