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TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2721
I think 2 infestors in Stephano's army would blow everyone's mind. Infestors + blinding cloud + hydra dps.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2722
Cloud totally changed the outcome of that fight

The thing the people saying cloud is easily avoided are missing, is that the AI dodges the cloud automatically, BUT, it sets the units on a straight line in front of the cloud, which means 2 things.

-Not all marines will fit in the arc, meaning less DPS
-Marauders won't be able to shoot.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2723
A few infestors would be nice with this army!
"NO" -Has
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2724
On March 08 2013 01:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:09 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:05 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:02 Bagi wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
As protoss I gotta say I could probably win TvZ handily with 2 reaper opening and then pressure third with widow mines vs current standard zerg.

As terran I gotta say I could probably win PvZ handily by turtling into VR/colossi on 3 base.

Your point?


You could maybe. Not saying that skytoss is balanced. What's your point?


His point is that you shouldn't make claims without evidence that contribute literally nothing to anything aside from pissing people off.


Take Yoda's opening vs Ret as evidence. Maybe stop arguing with me just because you feel like it.

As evidence of what? That certain strategies can win games?

Once again, thanks for that nugget of wisdom. Terran has ways to beat zerg. Amazing.


As evidence that some openings and overall playstyles are extremely strong vs current standard zerg? Which was my point in the first place. It will win in the hands of good players. Whether or not that's a balance issue or zerg just has to play differently remains to be explored.

You're really not reading this too well.


Well maybe if you would have made that point in the first place instead of posting one-liners you would have saved yourself a whole lot of trouble.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2725
Cool, spreading and flanking seems to be coming back to Zerg play. Stephano's always been good at engagement positioning, but still nice to see it rewarded
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Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2726
On March 08 2013 01:11 Hylirion wrote:
Who was the guy who claimed blinding cloud didnt work against bio??

Against bio/tanks . Basically with mines the Terran just pull back and let the mines do the job (killing vipers and some raoch/hydras) and then the MMM army crush what's left .
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#2727
On March 08 2013 01:10 Heartland wrote:
Stephano just killed his own extractor with the vipers?


Yeah. Some zergs use hatcheries because more health. But it is also bigger risk. Sooner or later, we will see zergs killing their hatcheries using vipers. And then Idra will gg.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#2728
Dream has subscribed to the MKP Universal Healthcare Plan. Dat medivac count...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
DasHawk
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark362 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#2729
MAN! Gotta love them vipers, making TvZ so much cooler!!!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#2730
He should bring some spore snacks for his vipers to the center
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#2731
What's the tech building required for Vipers ? Spire ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#2732
are vods available for all matches or only some of them?
EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
March 07 2013 16:13 GMT
#2733
And then he does a dumb engagement....
“I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables. Bob Sapp.” - Sonnen(R)
SkullnRoses
Profile Joined March 2012
2 Posts
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2734
On March 08 2013 01:05 Twisting wrote:
Hello, to the people that talk about zerg having a hard time finnaly.

I would like to remind you to GomTvT. And the close spawn nightmares, zerg was very hard when WoL came out, and again is very hard now HotS is out.

After a year or something, the terran nerfs kept on comming. So enjoy your overpowerd year while u can

This.

On March 08 2013 01:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
Zerg had 8 months where it topped the TLPD winrates. Terran had 20 months.

Zerg had the most players in Code S GSL once (the current season, Season 1 2013). Terran had the most Code S GSL players for every season before that.

Comparing Zerg vs Terran dominance is like comparing Pyrrhus to Alexander the Great. Not even close.

And this as well.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2735
On March 08 2013 01:10 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 01:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:04 Poopi wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:02 Redox wrote:
On March 08 2013 01:00 Weavel wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:59 sparklyresidue wrote:
Zerg winning = zerg hate, zerg losing = zerg hate. Seems like these threads have just become zerg bashing sprees over the last 6 mos.
Might have something to do with swarm of zergs balance whining. Reminds me of 2010 and early 2011 LR threads...

Terran hate back then has never been on the same level as zerg hate now. Although the Terran domination back then was way bigger then the Zerg one ever was.

How was zerg domination lower than terran's one?
Did you see foreign terrans beating top koreans zergs repeateadly?
Zerg got the most GSL wins and some absurd cash winning in 2012, it's not even funny.


Zerg had 8 months where it topped the TLPD winrates. Terran had 20 months.

Zerg had the most players in Code S GSL once (the current season, Season 1 2013). Terran had the most Code S GSL players for every season before that.

Comparing Zerg vs Terran dominance is like comparing Pyrrhus to Alexander the Great. Not even close.

So when did very bad terrans started to win against far better zergs?
Tell me . There are a lot of occurences of bad z. handily winning vs better terrans on the other hand.

Poopi, Terran apologist.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2736
So I take it MVP won the other match?
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2737
wow that was terribad
Terran & Potato Salad.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2738
Stephano can trade as much as he wants, but it's 3 base vs 3 base for a long time, Dream's units are simply more cost effective.


ah nm.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2739
On March 08 2013 01:13 Boucot wrote:
What's the tech building required for Vipers ? Spire ?

Spire and hive, I think.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 16:14:48
March 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#2740
What the hell was that second engagement from Stephano :S

Vipers are on basic hive.
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