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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 21:21 GMT
#1921
On February 16 2013 06:15 Topin wrote:
damn! Life destroyed Parting, i didnt thought it would end so fast.. hydra ftw!


Don't do this to me T_T
AdministratorBreak the chains
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
February 15 2013 22:32 GMT
#1922
Just watched the VODs. Sick, sick games - highly recommended!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Grotfange
Profile Joined February 2012
France7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 22:49:22
February 15 2013 22:46 GMT
#1923
it's fun to see every body saying that life is no that good juste because he lost to ... Parting.... and because it's will be the first month since october that life doesn't win a tournament and it's not like he has lost all of his game he had lost 2 close serie which is not that surprising for a 16 year old boy who is lacking of experience... there is not any player in SC2 who had won 2 gsl back to back. He has lost the same way in season 5 but still manage to take two big tournament right after.
Flinch
Profile Joined January 2013
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 23:00:16
February 15 2013 22:59 GMT
#1924
Life sucks. Back to Code B patch Zerg.

User was banned for this post.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
February 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#1925
I did not expect RorO to suddenly beast it up, but I'm happy as a RorO fan to see him succeed. I expected PartinG to pass either way, but seeing Life struggle to pass the Ro16 is a bit weird, when the sheer amount of skill he has was expected to have him win.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
February 16 2013 00:13 GMT
#1926
Life vs Parting set 2 was one of the best BO3 PvZ I ve ever seen. So amazing.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
February 16 2013 00:22 GMT
#1927
On February 16 2013 09:13 JyB wrote:
Life vs Parting set 2 was one of the best BO3 PvZ I ve ever seen. So amazing.


Game1 of the second set was the funniest thing!
SEKO SEKO SEKO
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
February 16 2013 00:30 GMT
#1928
On February 16 2013 02:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 02:19 warmus wrote:
People who thought that roro is not making it out of this group are just delusional and seem resistant to acknowledge what is happening on the screen. I have never even followed bw, but given this group. i knew for a fact that roro is making it out, just was not sure first or second. some good games today, looking forward to ro8.


SKT fan
Didn't follow Brood War
Does not compute

On a more serious note, I feel it is unfair to say "I knew for a fact that X" after X has already happened. I mean, RorO is obviously really good, especially in ZvZ - I'll willingly admit that, but "Knowing for a fact" that he'll advance from a group with the world's best Zerg and the player with, arguably, the best PvZ in the world seems a bit far-fetched. Care to share your reasoning?


Right, a quick explanation. SKT1 tag is my friends doing, he said I have to use it on TL if they win against KT in PL (round 2 obviously). Not a fan of either of these teams specifically, but I was sure (and wrong) that KT had that match. Roro is pretty self explanatory. He has been on fire recently, winning everything he plays, and if life can get 4-0 by soulkey (currently number 3-5 best player in WJS by pl results), I was pretty much 100% sure roro would beat both zergs in his group. Then there is parting, kind of a tossup, but considering that he is only eligible to play in PL when HotS hits + SKT currently will need him to deliver like desert needs water. Thus i assume Parting is not doing WoL 100% nowadays given kespa pressures, so I thought roro would also be strongly favored there.
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
February 16 2013 00:49 GMT
#1929
what the hell, that final engagement on game 3 set 2

holy storms
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 16 2013 00:51 GMT
#1930
I actually enjoyed those PvZs. None of them were really standard though.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 01:34:30
February 16 2013 01:32 GMT
#1931
On February 16 2013 00:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:17 Taipoka wrote:
On February 15 2013 23:58 Grumbels wrote:
- Hyun was dubbed a proto-elephant, he was originally on KeSPA, then joined an eSF team, then joined a foreign team. I know that a lot of people wanted him to fail for a while because success would be seen as proof for the elephant theory.
- SlayerS was seen as falling under the eSF umbrella in terms of eSF vs KeSPA, but was not an eSF team. Same for Axiom.
- It seems less of a stretch to call PartinG a KeSPA player than Taeja a foreign player by virtue of their teams.
- Almost all good players on eSF teams were pro-gamers on KeSPA teams in the past.
- The elephant in the room article implied that there would be a linear connection between Brood War skill and SC2 skill. In this sense, are cjhero, t8-cure and wjs-sos elephants? They were nobodies before SC2.

I would propose that we only talk about eSF vs KeSPA in the context of two sets of teams that both have their own team league. It's fun to speculate about how well they would do against each other and who is going to win out in the end.

What I would also suggest is to stop caring about whether the achievements of individual players reflect anything, such as the organisation they are part of. PartinG's wins don't reflect on KeSPA at all, nor do they on eSF, it's just an individual player doing very well.


I would propose to let people get their freedom on the internet, and not have some rules like:
"we only talk about eSF vs KeSPA in the context of two sets of teams..."
We already have too many social rules in our lives.


Flash said in his recent interview there is no difference between Kespa and eSF players, enough is enough and I know most everyone is tired of reading that crap in these threads.


i see a lot of people misunderstood flash's words here. what he only meant by that is that it makes no difference whether a player is kespa or esf, he will crush them all :D
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 01:57:59
February 16 2013 01:51 GMT
#1932
On February 16 2013 04:08 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:47 Talin wrote:
On February 16 2013 03:32 vthree wrote:
(He CAN be the top SC2 player but it isn't necessarily because he was the top BW player).


It isn't because he was the top BW player, but it is because he was the top tier progamer and thus has the experience of excelling in that profession. Especially compared to players who had no such experience (or success in it) pre-SC2, and even now for the most part don't practice in an equally professional environment.


So Flash would be a top tier CS 1.6 player because he was a top tier 'progamer'? Were Bogus, Roro, Soulkey the top progamers as well.

What about Moon and Grubby? Weren't they top tier 'progamers'? Are you so dense that the similarity between BW and SC2 had nothing to do with the expectations?

The answer is simple, they don't have the passion for the game because they don't like it as much as their old games.

EDIT: The elephant theory is based on the assumption that all of the kespa progamers would upheld their fighting spirit from BW and directly translate it over to SC2 and thus will work just as hard as BW. But it doesn't take into account of what happens if most of the kespa pros are not that satisfied with the game but only hanging around to do bare minimum for a living? They won't definitely not try their best and thus leading to worse results. That factor completely flew over many people's head.
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
February 16 2013 03:17 GMT
#1933
Lol, called it in liquibets.
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
February 16 2013 11:06 GMT
#1934
Just watched the VODs and KeSPA-Zergs like RorO/Soulkey are really Life's Achilles' heel Was the best series of the day.

And the Parting vs. Life matches reminded me of Rock-paper-scissors at the start. So many mindgames without scouting. First Parting was too stubborn to change his WonWonWon up and got rolled by hydras twice, then Life should have anticipated that Parting is finally rushing Collosus. Final game was just great defending by Parting and Life missed the transition to brood/inf although he had plenty of time ... Quarterfinal-MatchUps are great! GG

govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
February 16 2013 11:25 GMT
#1935
On February 16 2013 09:51 Havik_ wrote:
I actually enjoyed those PvZs. None of them were really standard though.


Agreed! they were all about the mindgames, so funny 4 zergs, 2 terran and 2 protos in next round, which seems pretty ok..
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
February 16 2013 12:19 GMT
#1936
Nice, I was cheering for both Parting and Roro to advance. Sad thing is that i couldn't see the games )=
JD is BONJWA!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 16 2013 19:04 GMT
#1937
wow i just looked at the result

can't believe roro was the end of life
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
February 16 2013 19:12 GMT
#1938
As a terran i hated zerg for a while, but for some reason i really liked STLife. There were some awesome matches, and ro8 race ratio is pretty balanced this way but i never thought he would lose . Artosis stated even if he leaved the game, he could win so artosis curse is the reason i guess.
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 16 2013 21:04 GMT
#1939
On February 17 2013 04:12 Isualin wrote:
Artosis stated even if he leaved the game, he could win so artosis curse is the reason i guess.


ARTOSISSS!!! X.X
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
webhappy
Profile Joined February 2012
20 Posts
February 22 2013 11:24 GMT
#1940
Wow! Interesting series between Life and Parting. Life finds the perfect build to crush sentry/immortal all-ins and goes 2-0 at first. Parting regroups and blindly goes Col all-in on the first game of the re-match. Life seems dazed and decides to 8-pool on whirlwind. If Life had simply played safe on such a pro-Zerg map, he should've won easily, but Parting decides to play safe w/ gateway expand (Parting makes too many micro mistakes in this game). Third game, Life goes 10-pool against another gateway expand. Parting has extremely good control of his caster units. The second series was so bizarre since I'm so used to 14p/16h vs FFE that I usually consider PvZ the most boring opening towatch, but this was one of the most exciting openings.
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