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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 05 2013 12:05 GMT
#1141
Time to sleep now goodnight!
Moderatorlickypiddy
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
February 05 2013 12:05 GMT
#1142
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
February 05 2013 12:05 GMT
#1143
On February 05 2013 21:00 Type|NarutO wrote:
Huk on Facebook "I wouldn't mind if the tAxi I'm in right now crashed"


this is why I don't like it when everyone rags on huk every time he plays. you can tell it gets to him, you can tell the games mean a lot to him, and he's emotionally open.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 05 2013 12:06 GMT
#1144
On February 05 2013 21:05 SlixSC wrote:
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.


When you look at the games, it's not even about statistics. It's about who made the good decisions/the bad moves.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 05 2013 12:06 GMT
#1145
On February 05 2013 21:02 AxionSteel wrote:
So unfortunate for Tear. Was a sad scene with all the FXO players in the booth with him looking rather upset trying to comfort him. I hope it doesnt mean he's thinking of retiring, always thought he was a skilled player.


He said in his Code A Qualifier interview that if he didn't qualify for this season he was thinking of retiring, whale asd and sirius also just retired.

samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 05 2013 12:06 GMT
#1146
On February 05 2013 21:01 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:00 LimitSEA wrote:
Side note, those LG-IM jackets are pretty fucking baller. I want one.


Aye can't wait for those things to show up via IM's website tbh.

...
Well it looks this gimmicky move is IM's terrans favorite. "You are behind ? Let's pull all SCVs and win this ez".
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
February 05 2013 12:07 GMT
#1147
On February 05 2013 21:03 kyllinghest wrote:
Yoda showing why he is the code S player. Cool forcefield/immortal shenanigans, but Tear really needed to get more colosai or storm to hold that inevitable scv pull he knew so well was coming.


If he had gotten more Colossi that would've been over a lot sooner. Archons were a really good choice in that situation.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
February 05 2013 12:07 GMT
#1148
It's not about mule or who was better but decision in game cost u game. If Tear got storm research instead of chargelot the game would be different
@taefoxy
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
February 05 2013 12:08 GMT
#1149
On February 05 2013 21:06 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:05 SlixSC wrote:
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.


When you look at the games, it's not even about statistics. It's about who made the good decisions/the bad moves.


Right, so protoss players are just better than terrans? I'm sorry but I don't buy that for one second, if you are going to claim that there is imbalance in the matchup and statistics strongly disagree with your claim you cannot just go ahead and say "but I think protoss players are just better" that's an absolutely baseless assertion.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 05 2013 12:08 GMT
#1150
Why couldnt it have been Yoda vs Huk and Tear vs Shine :/
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 05 2013 12:08 GMT
#1151
On February 05 2013 21:06 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:01 Lysanias wrote:
On February 05 2013 21:00 LimitSEA wrote:
Side note, those LG-IM jackets are pretty fucking baller. I want one.


Aye can't wait for those things to show up via IM's website tbh.

...
Well it looks this gimmicky move is IM's terrans favorite. "You are behind ? Let's pull all SCVs and win this ez".


It's not gimmicky if it has a high win percentage, surprised more terrans aren't picking up on it.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
February 05 2013 12:08 GMT
#1152
On February 05 2013 21:04 Ingusstarcraft wrote:
Well, the better player does not always win.


that depends on what you devine as better

I think Yoda played better in game one, and Tear failed to prepare for Yoda's all in in game 3. Yoda simply made use of of Tears mistake and beat him for it.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 05 2013 12:08 GMT
#1153
On February 05 2013 21:05 SlixSC wrote:
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.

Maybe the terrans who lost didn't do the SCV pull then.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
February 05 2013 12:09 GMT
#1154
On February 05 2013 21:08 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:06 samurai80 wrote:
On February 05 2013 21:01 Lysanias wrote:
On February 05 2013 21:00 LimitSEA wrote:
Side note, those LG-IM jackets are pretty fucking baller. I want one.


Aye can't wait for those things to show up via IM's website tbh.

...
Well it looks this gimmicky move is IM's terrans favorite. "You are behind ? Let's pull all SCVs and win this ez".


It's not gimmicky if it has a high win percentage, surprised more terrans aren't picking up on it.

Well you're right.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
February 05 2013 12:10 GMT
#1155
On February 05 2013 21:06 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:01 Lysanias wrote:
On February 05 2013 21:00 LimitSEA wrote:
Side note, those LG-IM jackets are pretty fucking baller. I want one.


Aye can't wait for those things to show up via IM's website tbh.

...
Well it looks this gimmicky move is IM's terrans favorite. "You are behind ? Let's pull all SCVs and win this ez".



What does your irrelivent bias statement have to do with IM Jackets ?
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 05 2013 12:10 GMT
#1156
On February 05 2013 21:05 SlixSC wrote:
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.


Keep in mind too, that mules are to counteract the ability to chronoboost. If protoss chronos probes, he gets more workers than terran, so terran makes up for this with their macro mechanic in mules. In this scenario, if both had equal harvesters, YoDa might've overpowered him in the all-in attack on the first try with the extra few SCVs. :p Who knows.
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
February 05 2013 12:11 GMT
#1157
On February 05 2013 21:08 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:05 SlixSC wrote:
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.

Maybe the terrans who lost didn't do the SCV pull then.


Unless you can prove that this is the case and that pulling scvs somehow increases your win percentage significantly this is nothing but speculation. I don't deal with hypotheticals, I deal with facts.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 05 2013 12:11 GMT
#1158
I remember Mvp using the scv pull kill move all the way back in 2012 season 2 during his protoss killing rampage, it's been around for a while and protoss should know how to deal with it ( storm ) Tear had a decent position because Yoda made like 10 vikings and there was only one colossus but then the bio was protected by the ff's and all the zealots died, then the flank with the landed vikings.

was really close, if Tear had 2 storms instead of the 5 immortals he would have held it.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
February 05 2013 12:12 GMT
#1159
On February 05 2013 21:05 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:00 Type|NarutO wrote:
Huk on Facebook "I wouldn't mind if the tAxi I'm in right now crashed"


this is why I don't like it when everyone rags on huk every time he plays. you can tell it gets to him, you can tell the games mean a lot to him, and he's emotionally open.


It comes naturally with the territory, in all other sports as well. If you can't take a loss, you don't belong imo.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12319 Posts
February 05 2013 12:13 GMT
#1160
On February 05 2013 21:08 SlixSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 21:06 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2013 21:05 SlixSC wrote:
People can complain about mules all they want, Protoss has the tools to avoid these situations, if they don't then yes Terran has an advantage. But let's not get carried away here, Protoss has a 60% win rate in TvP in Korea (january), so if people really think there is some sort of serious imbalance in the matchup, like some appearently do, they should really re-consider who suffers from that imbalance. Again I'm not saying there is imbalance, I don't think so, but to simply ignore all statistics and instead point at one game that was lost by a protoss is ridiculous.


When you look at the games, it's not even about statistics. It's about who made the good decisions/the bad moves.


Right, so protoss players are just better than terrans? I'm sorry but I don't buy that for one second, if you are going to claim that there is imbalance in the matchup and statistics strongly disagree with your claim you cannot just go ahead and say "but I think protoss players are just better" that's an absolutely baseless assertion.


That's not at all what he meant, he said Yoda made better decisions than Tear and that's why he won. You just read it the way you did cause even though you're trying to pretend to view this from an impartial stats standpoint, you're actually just rooting for terran =p

But don't worry, everyone is rooting, we don't mind.
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