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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
January 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#2921
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.
*burp*
DarkPie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States42 Posts
January 06 2013 14:34 GMT
#2922
On January 06 2013 22:55 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 22:54 Grovbolle wrote:
On January 06 2013 22:54 johanes wrote:
if flash wins code A, is he seeded for code S automatically?


You can not "win" code A

uh? whats the format then?


Code A has a ro48,ro32, ro24. People who get past the ro24 get into Code S. If they lose in ro32/ro24 they go into the Up&Downs. If you lose in ro48 youre knocked out of code A.
Huk, Trump, Rain, Maru, TLO ^^.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 14:36:47
January 06 2013 14:35 GMT
#2923
Well, all I can say is that I, and probably a lot of other Flash fans as well, put all the blame to Him not building one bunker.
Quoting my post earlier:
On January 06 2013 21:07 NicksonReyes wrote:
I'm a Flash fanboy. I've lived my whole life watching Flash play greedy, lose when punished and win when not.


EDIT: There goes my 3,000th post.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 14:36 GMT
#2924
On January 06 2013 23:32 isaachukfan wrote:
Itt: flash fanboys getting butthurt that thier god lost.

The fact is..
he should have made it.
Yes, I am a Flash fan so obviously my opinions are going to biased however, the way he beat Vampire/Yonghwa as if they were nothing. I have strong belief if he just played safe against MC; he would have likely pulled it off; or better an extremely good match.
Flash/MC micro seem to be on par, from the OSL/GSL games, with Flash's macro being better, MC being more strategic.
he just pulled off a bisu and ended up with massive damage from pressure but still ended up with the same record as MC but didnt go through thats the frustrating part of it all.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
January 06 2013 14:36 GMT
#2925
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 14:38:12
January 06 2013 14:38 GMT
#2926
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.


It's fair in the way that everyone has an equal chance, but I think playing tiebreakers if you have 3 players at equal records is better than head to head, and less random.

anyway I'm done ranting on this off to bed ;d
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 06 2013 14:38 GMT
#2927
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system

Doesn't matter who you beat. It's about how many people you beat.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18755 Posts
January 06 2013 14:38 GMT
#2928
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system


You also play the best player in the group after he has qualified --> he doesn't care one thing about the outcome

If anything Flash was lucky he played Yoda last.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 06 2013 14:40 GMT
#2929
On January 06 2013 23:36 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:32 isaachukfan wrote:
Itt: flash fanboys getting butthurt that thier god lost.

The fact is..
he should have made it.
Yes, I am a Flash fan so obviously my opinions are going to biased however, the way he beat Vampire/Yonghwa as if they were nothing. I have strong belief if he just played safe against MC; he would have likely pulled it off; or better an extremely good match.
Flash/MC micro seem to be on par, from the OSL/GSL games, with Flash's macro being better, MC being more strategic.
he just pulled off a bisu and ended up with massive damage from pressure but still ended up with the same record as MC but didnt go through thats the frustrating part of it all.

Sometimes your player just loses... Everyone goes in knowing how the format works, whining afterwards makes no sense at all.

Let it go!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 06 2013 14:40 GMT
#2930
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system


Because you failed to beat the other players who are tied with you.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
January 06 2013 14:41 GMT
#2931
Meh. At least Flash can keep focusing on Proleague.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#2932
lol Flash failed
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 14:43:15
January 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#2933
On January 06 2013 23:38 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system

Doesn't matter who you beat. It's about how many people you beat.

Doesn't matter how many people you beat. It's about who you beat. Flash, JD and MC all beat 3 guys. MC beat both so he wins. Flash lost to both so he's out. I'm obviously not complaining about the format. Just saying that "Doesn't matter who you beat. It's about how many people you beat." is plain wrong.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 14:42:43
January 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#2934
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system

Even better, you lose to the two people that you tie with and your fans cry about you coming in 4th place because you lost head to head against the two players you tie with. Amazing system IMO.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
January 06 2013 14:42 GMT
#2935
On January 06 2013 23:14 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:12 freetgy wrote:
On January 06 2013 23:11 raga4ka wrote:
On January 06 2013 22:51 GolemMadness wrote:
Three players end up with the same score, and all three get different results. Such a stupid format.


Not to mention the potential of players not playing their best when they are already in or out ...


guess you never watched Champions League
or football world cup group stages

But it's not like the teams involved train together daily. MC vs Yonghwa should never have been the last game


But we would never know Yonghwa was going to be 0 - 4 before the match, same as Flash case. If he was 3-1 or 4-0 before playing against YoDa. All matchs scheduled and hadn't been changed.
@taefoxy
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#2936
I knew MC could do it :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#2937
On January 06 2013 23:36 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:32 isaachukfan wrote:
Itt: flash fanboys getting butthurt that thier god lost.

The fact is..
he should have made it.
Yes, I am a Flash fan so obviously my opinions are going to biased however, the way he beat Vampire/Yonghwa as if they were nothing. I have strong belief if he just played safe against MC; he would have likely pulled it off; or better an extremely good match.
Flash/MC micro seem to be on par, from the OSL/GSL games, with Flash's macro being better, MC being more strategic.
he just pulled off a bisu and ended up with massive damage from pressure but still ended up with the same record as MC but didnt go through thats the frustrating part of it all.


That is like saying Squirtle should have won Season 2 if his stalkers didn't get caught. Or Yellow should have won OSL if he defended the bunker rushes. Hell, Yoda would have won if he just kept making marines and attacked Flash instead of letting Flash tech and expand before him in their game.

Fact is, players take risks and sometimes they get burned for it. But if they didn't take any risk ever, they would be playing from behind in every game against players who take risks.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 06 2013 14:46 GMT
#2938
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system


wait... are you SERIOUSLY complaining about place behind people you lost to??!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 14:49:33
January 06 2013 14:47 GMT
#2939
On January 06 2013 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:38 Assirra wrote:
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system

Doesn't matter who you beat. It's about how many people you beat.

Doesn't matter how many people you beat. It's about who you beat. Flash, JD and MC all beat 3 guys. MC beat both so he wins. Flash lost to both so he's out. I'm obviously not complaining about the format. Just saying that "Doesn't matter who you beat. It's about how many people you beat." is plain wrong.


Heh, funny thing is. It is actually about who you beat. If Flash lost to Yoda but beat MC, there would have been tiebreakers. Or if he beat JD, he would have been 3rd and gone to wild cards.

But again, the format is known for everyone and H2H is one of the most common tiebreakers in competitions (sports, chess, etc). And next time, it might be Flash that goes through because of it.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 06 2013 14:47 GMT
#2940
On January 06 2013 23:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:33 Parcelleus wrote:
I agree BO1 is a bit shit, but the format is fair IMHO. You get to play 5 games to determine if you go through.

You beat the best player in the group, tie for 2nd best record and come 4th... awesome system

I am usually not on my acc when on this site, but all this fanboyism made me log on to have a chance to stand up to this. Flash lost in a fair system, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is bad. So just drop this fanboyism right now, because you will most likely feel better if you don't feel a need to blame a totally fair system for being shit just because your greedy hero didn't make it.
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