EPTOn January 06 2013 23:13 NicksonReyes wrote:
Not if you stop generalizing. How many posts like that have you seen?
Not if you stop generalizing. How many posts like that have you seen?
too many and all with KT tags
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sharkie
Austria18412 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:12 GreyKnight wrote: they do, but they shouldn't because it's too short and does not represent the actual nature of the GSL format which gives alot of time to prepare for a specific opponent. for example winning a stacked MLG championship by cutting down code s players left and right isn't a code S win just because of the players you beat. They shouldn't but THEY DO. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:12 freetgy wrote: guess you never watched Champions League or football world cup group stages But it's not like the teams involved train together daily. MC vs Yonghwa should never have been the last game | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
Count all those individuals, then estimate the amount of Flash fanboys, then draw a conclusion. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12192 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:13 Baroninthetree wrote: I like those flash fan boy keeps on whining about Yonghwa's 0-4 which he had nth to win, but never mentioned Yoda is 4-0 when versus flash which he got nth to lose While I agree with you about the stupidity of it all, I could argue that it's better for YoDa's chances to have MC still in contention rather than Flash. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:12 Poopi wrote: The problem with PL is that you can get screwed if your coach chooses the wrong player / map (not sending TaeJa on antiga seriously?), and there are some new maps thus their practice regimen is really adapted to the proleague but not that much for the GSL. The KeSPA aces can do very well in the GSL (see Bogus, and Rain/Fantasy) but yeah I'm not sure that the likes of Wooki, Action, Stats, Speed, etc... could make it in the GSL format. Ppl like stats is born to play pro league,they don't care nth about personal league, nor the ability to advance in gsl or other tournament. Most time, they practice one map and one opponent which is really bad for them to improve the overall skills | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:10 Baroninthetree wrote: Can't agree more. Up and down is so crowded. SPL is below code s for sure in terms of players You cant compare SPL with GSL.. because thats like saying...GSTL is below Code S for players.. It's a team league; of course there's going to be a large amount of code B players. However Kespa players are slowly seeping their way into Code S and going far when in it, Rain and Bogus proved this in the past two seasons. The aces of Kespa teams: Fantasy/Rain, Flash, Soulkey, Baby, Roro, Bogus, sHy, herO are all Code S calibre players And if you watch the SPL; the 2nd in command guys like Stats, Soo, Zero, Jangbi, Dear, Hydra are coming into mid Code A form. Arguably Kespa teams has the same depth as a GSTL team unless the team is LG-IM or Startale. | ||
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xAshCanaaNx
Philippines150 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:17 xAshCanaaNx wrote: has YongHwa ever been in Code S? No this was Yonghwa's first ever season in the GSL | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Bo7 Match Stephano vs Flash Winner gets Code S Seed T_T................. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:17 Shellshock1122 wrote: No this was Yonghwa's first ever season in the GSL He took a bit of a beating, hope it dosnt crush his moral too much | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
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Snow948
Germany83 Posts
5-1 in a group like this is really impressed, but in the last game, Flash show that he isn´t superman. TvT looks like his weakest matchup, so it becomes how far he go into the Code S to how many TvT he most play there. OR, he had just not pratice this Matchup, because the leak of Terrans in this group. SK_MC took a great win for today. I remember that got in the HSC VI not in the Playoffs! This and the fact, that it was so close for him to drop into Code A, it looks like MC Great Times are over yet. He his still a pretty good Protoss, but not more the Boss Toss himself. EG_JD_RC Wildcard spot was for me the biggest suprise. Sure he is the Tyrann, but hey, in sc2, he looks in many game not at a Code S or even Code A Level. The Wildcard group will show if close the gap to Flash, which he does close a big more than a little bit by defending God today. But there is still a Gap, but with a Code S spot, he will going to show all haters that he is even in sc2 the Tyrann. THe Question for Flash is, it is a good day for him, or one of this you most forgot. The all kill over EGTL was pretty impressed and he was hyped by many of us into to Code S. All Seems great at start of the Up and Down Matches for him. But the loss to Jeadong and MC was unexpect. It looks like he cut to much corner to have later a bigger advantage. but it didn´t pay off. Worse, he got punish for that and loss so 2 Games, who he had should win with any bigger issues. Vampir plays like expect, in solid, but sometimes a bit sloppy, style. He wasn´t good enough for this group, but he is a good low-mid tier Code S Toss or a high Code A. And at the end, there is a totally crashed guys names YongHwa. He managed to win not a single game, as the biggest favourit in this group. It looks like a had pretty bad stage fright, which make him to a nervous wreck. Or he had just one of this days, that we all know... Now he must rebuild in the Code A his name. The only thing that he can help is to looking forward. At the end, I will say it was a great group to watch and some games are more entertainment that even Finals of the Code S. And Im sorry for my bad english, it´s a foreign language, which i try to improved with post like that. | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
MC vs Yonghwa should never have been the last game GOM can't always be responsible to know who all is on the same team, who is friends, who practices together etc. Those things change so quickly, and you set a dangerous precedent when you start manipulating schedules based on that information. Two guys who aren't on the same team could be best friends, should GOM check their facebook page and see? Not to mention apparently it is OK to challenge Yonghwa's integrity? He has never done anything that would indicate he wouldn't be trying his hardest. I didn't see anything during the game that would indicate he threw it. I mean I'd be more suspicious if for example he always beats MC and was 4-0 going into that match. But he was getting beat by everyone and not playing great, so I don't get how it is even a question about MC beating him or accusing him of throwing it. This forum becomes harder and harder to read each passing day. The format is perfectly fair, all players know the rules going in, they know the schedule, they know the tie-breakers. If they have an issue they and their teams/managers should raise that issue PRIOR to the start of the event. Otherwise, I don't see how a system where 6 players go in all with equal chance to advance, all starting with a 0-0 record, is somehow unfair. Here is the solution, go 5-0 and you won't have to worry about tie-breakers. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:19 Topdoller wrote: He took a bit of a beating, hope it dosnt crush his moral too much he shouldnt feel that bad Vampire is like FXO.asd, like you never notice him but he always somehow manages to get into Code S/UpDown Matches. Losing to Flash/Jaedong is nothing to be shameful about. Yoda proved his last season in Code S was no fluke and it's nice to help out a teammate in MC to Code S | ||
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
For this season, there should be no code S seeds, but instead 12 advance from U&D. No major difference though. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
Went back and all I got was 2 people with KT tags complaining about the format. + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2013 22:54 Scarecrow wrote: Yeah and they beat someone MC couldn't plus MC got a free win vs yonghwa. Everytime I see this format I shake my head. Players who have no incentive to win vs'ing their friends/old teammates. Also just schedule a day for bo1 round robin tiebreakers after the groups are done... On January 06 2013 22:51 GolemMadness wrote: Three players end up with the same score, and all three get different results. Such a stupid format. Now, I want your definition of "too many." | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:17 LighT. wrote: You cant compare SPL with GSL.. because thats like saying...GSTL is below Code S for players.. It's a team league; of course there's going to be a large amount of code B players. However Kespa players are slowly seeping their way into Code S and going far when in it, Rain and Bogus proved this in the past two seasons. The aces of Kespa teams: Fantasy/Rain, Flash, Soulkey, Baby, Roro, Bogus, sHy, herO are all Code S calibre players And if you watch the SPL; the 2nd in command guys like Stats, Soo, Zero, Jangbi, Dear, Hydra are coming into mid Code A form. Arguably Kespa teams has the same depth as a GSTL team unless the team is LG-IM or Startale. The problem with this argument is that we see those kespa aces mostly playing against other kespa players, most being Code A or lower tier, thus Fantasy, Baby, Soulkey, Roro, Shy, and herO are mostly overrated. They show great games as their team's aces but this is on games that are less demanding. Soulkey in particular was looking great and right now, that the dust of the kespa entrance has settled and we have a better look at the players, looks extremely average. I'd say right now only kespa players in Code S level are probably Rain, Bogus, and Flash if and only he can find more consistency, GSL is all about consistency. | ||
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