EPT[Up/Down] Group A 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 144
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
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Poopi
France12972 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:04 ROOTheognis wrote: nooo wtf?! Flash 3-2 like Jaedong and he is back to Code A?  I missed most of the games and just caught the tail-end of it all. Can someone explain this to me? I missed the beginning of Flash vs JD but he ended up having siege too late and JD did a good burst with 1-1 which dealed too much damage. Flash was so much behind he could not do shit but die slowly. The 2nd lost game was apparently CC first with no bunker vs a 2 stalker 1 zealot poke, Flash lost around 17scv, he was behind and thus tried a 8 medivac bioball+ scv allin on cloud kingdom but MC delayed the push very well with his FF, allowing him to barely hold. I think in the JD game he was not going to win with his build (I mean it was really a weird build, only 1 ebay but late siege), but he could very well have won vs MC so it's disappointing. | ||
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freetgy
1720 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:06 xi Tempest x wrote: MC, JD and Flash were all 3-2 MC beat Jaedong and Flash = MC advances as 2nd Jaedong beat Flash = JD gets wild card. makes sense, MC just knows how to win games, and has the skill to back this up. Currently with MC's micro skills he would most likely be 2 times as good if he would have choosen his race as terran. Imagin how much better he will become when HotS comes out, and Protoss gets more micro potential. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:04 mordk wrote: I like how people ALWAYS underestimate MC. While I definitely agree he's not on his best form (Actually really far from it), MC just knows how to win, and this is a factor many people fail to consider, he's always playing on the line, and most of the time he succeeds. This is not about the format, MC just did well, as he usually does in this type of setting. If he's that good then just have a separate day for Up&Down tiebreakers. H2H is a shitty way to do it considering MC lost to Yoda (the best player on the night) who flash beat. | ||
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:03 speknek wrote: Well, although it is ridiculous that if both players expo the protoss can just kill the terran, it's still just a stupid mistake not to bunker, especially vs someone like MC. The bunker didn't mean he won, that was a light pressure by MC that turned into a bop. If MC does nothing he is by no means out. | ||
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Coolhwip
Sweden1381 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:59 Parcelleus wrote: MC MC MC !!! xD He bullies his wins with pure micro. NO other TOSS could even try that. To imagine MC with better decisions , is just plain scary and obviously no-one would come close to beating him. He is easily the most talented ESF player Ive ever seen. Congrats on earning your place back in Code S SK_MC !!! Salute !!! xD Id say PartinGs micro is on par with MC. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18679 Posts
fanboys at their worst lol | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:09 Scarecrow wrote: If he's that good then just have a separate day for Up&Down tiebreakers. H2H is a shitty way to do it considering MC lost to Yoda (the best player on the night) who flash beat. Or we should just keep playing the group until JD and Flash make it. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:09 Scarecrow wrote: If he's that good then just have a separate day for Up&Down tiebreakers. H2H is a shitty way to do it considering MC lost to Yoda (the best player on the night) who flash beat. It's just not an ideal system in general really but what are you gonna do, you've got to run 5 groups + wildcards and if you make it bo3 each group will take up two days, and tiebreakers on a different day is also adding x2 as many days. I mean I GUESS they could take two weeks to do the up/downs but I think people would get tired of it. | ||
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alone
Poland410 Posts
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:04 mordk wrote: I like how people ALWAYS underestimate MC. While I definitely agree he's not on his best form (Actually really far from it), MC just knows how to win, and this is a factor many people fail to consider, he's always playing on the line, and most of the time he succeeds. This is not about the format, MC just did well, as he usually does in this type of setting. Flash played excellent on the AK vs EGTL, but it also comes to show how PL is a level below GSL Code S, I'd say U&D is a correct level for most KeSPA pros, probably the only exception being Rain. Flash is one of the better ones though, he needs more consistency, same as JD Can't agree more. Up and down is so crowded. SPL is below code s for sure in terms of players | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:04 Shellshock1122 wrote: Ok. Seed won a more recent GSL Code S than a Terran Lol. And don't they count Blizzard Cup as a Code S Championship? EDIT: Oh wait. Parting just reached the Blizzard Cup Finals. Still, he technically was still in a Code S Finals. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:51 GolemMadness wrote: Three players end up with the same score, and all three get different results. Such a stupid format. Not to mention the potential of players not playing their best when they are already in or out ... | ||
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Poopi
France12972 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:04 mordk wrote: I like how people ALWAYS underestimate MC. While I definitely agree he's not on his best form (Actually really far from it), MC just knows how to win, and this is a factor many people fail to consider, he's always playing on the line, and most of the time he succeeds. This is not about the format, MC just did well, as he usually does in this type of setting. Flash played excellent on the AK vs EGTL, but it also comes to show how PL is a level below GSL Code S, I'd say U&D is a correct level for most KeSPA pros, probably the only exception being Rain. Flash is one of the better ones though, he needs more consistency, same as JD The problem with PL is that you can get screwed if your coach chooses the wrong player / map (not sending TaeJa on antiga seriously?), and there are some new maps thus their practice regimen is really adapted to the proleague but not that much for the GSL. The KeSPA aces can do very well in the GSL (see Bogus, and Rain/Fantasy) but yeah I'm not sure that the likes of Wooki, Action, Stats, Speed, etc... could make it in the GSL format. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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freetgy
1720 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:11 raga4ka wrote: Not to mention the potential of players not playing their best when they are already in or out ... guess you never watched Champions League or football world cup group stages | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:10 silent_owl wrote: Lol. And don't they count Blizzard Cup as a Code S Championship? they do, but they shouldn't because it's too short and does not represent the actual nature of the GSL format which gives alot of time to prepare for a specific opponent. for example winning a stacked MLG championship by cutting down code s players left and right isn't a code S win just because of the players you beat. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:09 sharkie wrote: Are people seriously giving the fault of no Flash in Code S to the group system? fanboys at their worst lol No, if you stop generalizing. How many posts like that have you seen? | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:04 Fusilero wrote: Liveforever gave up his seed which polt won through a wildcard tournament which now someone else will win through a wildcard tournament. The cycle of life carries on. Stephano got Polt's seed. The two seeds that normally are given to players were given to the wildcard group because no players have done anything special since 2012 Season 5. Stephano didn't win anything. Also, LiveForever and LegalMind retired. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On January 06 2013 23:10 vthree wrote: Or we should just keep playing the group until JD and Flash make it. I like those flash fan boy keeps on whining about Yonghwa's 0-4 which he had nth to win, but never mentioned Yoda is 4-0 when versus flash which he got nth to lose | ||
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fuck yeah!
