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ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
November 23 2012 16:40 GMT
#1061
Oh thank god this game has started
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 23 2012 16:40 GMT
#1062
On November 24 2012 01:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:36 Waxangel wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Although this is all slightly amusing, it's pretty bad casters aren't fully informed on how tiebreakers work for the tournament they're casting. Whether this is on the casters or on the tournament I don't know. I hope the DH/ESL/MLG partnership will take a look at tiebreaker rules and unify them and release them publicly.


ESL and MLG rules are public and pretty easy to find

Unifying being the key word. The issue is there are too many tournaments for the casters to understand all the tiebreaker rules of. Same goes for player information and viewer information.

Not sure why Incontrol makes a joke out of it. It would be really good for the scene if that would happen. He should know as someone who joins tournaments occasionally as a player how good it would be for information supply to players.

Some people just make jokes?
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1063
loool

"Did the TSL admins know all the rules?" Oh, Geoff. COME ON RET!
I love crazymoving
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1064
Stephano is out...no!How could you!You were the chosen one!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1065
On November 24 2012 01:40 mijellin wrote:
Incontrol's whole argument is predicated on the fact that he is actually entertaining.

So he is right then!?
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1066
Do it for your brotoss, Nightend!
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1067
On November 24 2012 01:41 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Stephano is out...no!How could you!You were the chosen one!


Yeah, EG chose him :p
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1068
Stuff just this just pisses me of, they need to get a dedicated admin or something just to sort this stuff of (volunteer here).
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
November 23 2012 16:41 GMT
#1069
yeah. Go Team Liquid
Want to sport eSports? Disable adblock. P.S. En Taro Adun!!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1070
Aaaaaaaaaaaand looks like Fraer is also through. Games about over.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1071
NightEnD has really good PvZ, will be suprised if he doesn't take a game of Ret. Also considering some of the mistakes we've seen Ret make so far.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1072
incontrol is for me the most entertaining caster out there (except from one unknown german caster (not khaldor))

props to incontrol
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1073
Gah, Incontrol going into hardcore strawman mode. Casters not knowing tie-break rules has been something annoying me for quite awhile now. Other random rules are I don't really care about, but rules about tie-breaking is essential for good commentary.
Billmaan
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1074
Here's the rulebook from 2011 DHW: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf

According to that rulebook, matches won > maps won > map difference > head-to-head > map score among tied participants. Hence if Ret beats NightEnD, be it 2-1 or 2-0, then he will advance, as he will have won more maps (6) than NaNiwa, ForGG, or NightEnD. If NightEnD wins 2-1, then it goes to the head-to-head tiebreaker between NaNiwa and ForGG, and NaNiwa advances. If NightEnD wins 2-0, then he, NaNiwa, and ForGG all have the same maps won and map difference, and there's a three-way head-to-head tie, so NaNiwa advances based on map score among himself, ForGG, and NightEnD.

TLDR: If Ret wins, he advances. If NightEnD wins, then NaNiwa advances. (Either way, everyone bitches about the tiebreaker procedures.)

They don't seem to have a 2012 rulebook for SC2. They do have one for CS:GO, which appears to use the same tiebreakers. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it seems reasonable to presume that the tiebreakers haven't changed since last year.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1075
Fuck yeah, fraer through to RO12!
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1076
On November 24 2012 01:38 era909 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:35 Jtom wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:33 era909 wrote:
On November 24 2012 01:30 AtlasEndured wrote:
ForGG is not out. If Nightend 2-0's Ret, FOrGG, Nightend, and Nani are all 5-7 map score, 2-3 overall score. Nan>For>Night>Nan


Then it's internal mapscore within the tie.

Nani 3-2
NE 3-3
ForGG 2-3

What the hell is internal mapscore? I've never heard of it being used before. Could I see where that is in the rulebook?

Can't find the rules for this year but here's the rules from last year: http://dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf

Unless they changed it for this season that is how it works.

Huh, I didn't know this was in use last year at all. Pretty weird system X_X. Thanks for digging that up.
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
Trashman420
Profile Joined September 2012
232 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1077
STC is out.
Foreigners fighting
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1078
go Ret!
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
OKMarius
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway469 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1079
What, did Snute lose 2-0 to Elfi? Why does liquipedia say he's guaranteed to go through?
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
November 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#1080
On November 24 2012 01:42 Gladiator333 wrote:
NightEnD has really good PvZ, will be suprised if he doesn't take a game of Ret. Also considering some of the mistakes we've seen Ret make so far.


Yeah but, Nightend has nothing to fight for except his pride.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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