EPTHehe I'm not above admitting that plenty of people think Incontrol is hilarious. That's fine
[DreamHack] Winter Day 2 - Page 55
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mijellin
China740 Posts
Hehe I'm not above admitting that plenty of people think Incontrol is hilarious. That's fine | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:40 mijellin wrote: Incontrol's whole argument is predicated on the fact that he is actually entertaining. Srsly, i love incontrol! He is really entertaining °_°, he matches really well with apollo. | ||
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Gowerly
United Kingdom916 Posts
That also effects whether http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21210265 or http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter is right about TLO's position. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:42 OKMarius wrote: What, did Snute lose 2-0 to Elfi? Why does liquipedia say he's guaranteed to go through? Cause he is, at worst he's tied with STC and he has the head to head advantage over him. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:42 ceaRshaf wrote: Yeah but, Nightend has nothing to fight for except his pride. I guess that might factor in a bit, unfortunately... | ||
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United States7081 Posts
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MyFirstProbe
Netherlands294 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:42 ceaRshaf wrote: Yeah but, Nightend has nothing to fight for except his pride. No, if he wins 2-0 he gets into a 3-way tie with Naniwa and fOrGG. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:42 Billmaan wrote: Here's the rulebook from 2011 DHW: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf According to that rulebook, matches won > maps won > map difference > head-to-head > map score among tied participants. Hence if Ret beats NightEnD, be it 2-1 or 2-0, then he will advance, as he will have won more maps (6) than NaNiwa, ForGG, or NightEnD. If NightEnD wins 2-1, then it goes to the head-to-head tiebreaker between NaNiwa and ForGG, and NaNiwa advances. If NightEnD wins 2-0, then he, NaNiwa, and ForGG all have the same maps won and map difference, and there's a three-way head-to-head tie, so NaNiwa advances based on map score among himself, ForGG, and NightEnD. TLDR: If Ret wins, he advances. If NightEnD wins, then NaNiwa advances. (Either way, everyone bitches about the tiebreaker procedures.) They don't seem to have a 2012 rulebook for SC2. They do have one for CS:GO, which appears to use the same tiebreakers. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it seems reasonable to presume that the tiebreakers haven't changed since last year. From the casters, which they said the info comes from an admin, a 6-8 map score is the same as a 5-7 | ||
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OKMarius
Norway469 Posts
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Slikk
Norway81 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:42 OKMarius wrote: What, did Snute lose 2-0 to Elfi? Why does liquipedia say he's guaranteed to go through? I think it's because Snute won against STC | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:44 MyFirstProbe wrote: No, if he wins 2-0 he gets into a 3-way tie with Naniwa and fOrGG. And then naniwa goes through. | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:43 Gowerly wrote: So, regardless of the fact that Apollo can't rhyme Gower with Power, did we find out whether, in three way ties, whether internal maps happen before positive vs Negative. That also effects whether http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21210265 or http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter is right about TLO's position. It's Match +/-, Game +/- then head to head. If there's a 3 way tie after game +/-, internal maps are used to break the tie. This was confirmed on stream. | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:44 MyFirstProbe wrote: No, if he wins 2-0 he gets into a 3-way tie with Naniwa and fOrGG. I think he also ties with nani on INTERNAL mapscore 5 to 3! | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8309 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Although this is all slightly amusing, it's pretty bad casters aren't fully informed on how tiebreakers work for the tournament they're casting. Whether this is on the casters or on the tournament I don't know. I hope the DH/ESL/MLG partnership will take a look at tiebreaker rules and unify them and release them publicly. BTW Congrats on having 3/4ths of your players through already! | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4756 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:42 Billmaan wrote: Here's the rulebook from 2011 DHW: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf According to that rulebook, matches won > maps won > map difference > head-to-head > map score among tied participants. Hence if Ret beats NightEnD, be it 2-1 or 2-0, then he will advance, as he will have won more maps (6) than NaNiwa, ForGG, or NightEnD. If NightEnD wins 2-1, then it goes to the head-to-head tiebreaker between NaNiwa and ForGG, and NaNiwa advances. If NightEnD wins 2-0, then he, NaNiwa, and ForGG all have the same maps won and map difference, and there's a three-way head-to-head tie, so NaNiwa advances based on map score among himself, ForGG, and NightEnD. TLDR: If Ret wins, he advances. If NightEnD wins, then NaNiwa advances. (Either way, everyone bitches about the tiebreaker procedures.) They don't seem to have a 2012 rulebook for SC2. They do have one for CS:GO, which appears to use the same tiebreakers. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it seems reasonable to presume that the tiebreakers haven't changed since last year. Actually according to this rulebook maps won doesnt matter, matches won, map difference then match between tied players as it always was at DH. Nothing has changed for a long time. + Show Spoiler + Tiebreakers ● The groups are decided in the following order: points, maps +/-, internal match. In case of a three-way-tie of the previous criteria internal maps +/- will decide. ● Would this not separate the players and determine the group. The players will play a tie-breaker of BO1 against each other. The first match-up will be randomly drawn and tie-breakers will continue until the group is decided. | ||
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era909
Sweden139 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:43 Gowerly wrote: So, regardless of the fact that Apollo can't rhyme Gower with Power, did we find out whether, in three way ties, whether internal maps happen before positive vs Negative. That also effects whether http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21210265 or http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter is right about TLO's position. Nerchio should be ahead of TLO, the dreamhack bracket is wrong. | ||
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