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ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
November 22 2012 12:50 GMT
#1581
Why is GSL suddenly seem so random in last couple months? Wasn't like this before.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 22 2012 12:51 GMT
#1582
On November 22 2012 21:06 Volcker wrote:
Zerg won 100% of their games but that is not imba, just statistical noise.
On the other hand, Terrans won so many TvP that I almost had an heart-attack xD I have like a 5% W/L ratio on ladder


Terran winning there games is balance, but if zerg does it TEARS of QQ :D

OT: Suprised Rain lost tbh i expected so much more from him.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 13:05:49
November 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#1583
On November 22 2012 21:43 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 21:39 samurai80 wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:38 Ragnarork wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:25 samurai80 wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:20 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:18 samurai80 wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:15 Vorenius wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:13 habeck wrote:
how did Rain lost? was it macro or cheese?

Picked apart by awesome multitasking.

I would say Rain just didn't have enough defense and Dream really well took advantage of it with multiprong attacks.

Isn't this the exact same thing as getting outplayed?

Outplayed it's like Rain is loosing because having less skills. Imo it's more Dream hitting a good timing with the right composition.


Damn it's hard to admit Rain has been outplayed by a low tier player this night.

Dream was really not looking low tier tonight though. He played really well.


Sure, but it's the first feat of this kind he pulled iirc.

I remember him appearing here and there and sometimes losing series a bit closer than you thought he would against good players, but that's all.

Here, he 2-0'ed convincingly Rain, which is somewhat really honorable !

If he keeps this going, then he'll climb the tier, that's what I'm implying by this.

I agree with this.

But reading comments here, it looks like Dream had a better multitask (which might be the case), winning the game because of his total dominance in micro and macro (what I call ouplay) and that's where I disagree. On the second game Rain did make a few mistakes but his loss was most of all due to him not reading the situation well enough beforehand, therefore not preparing well enough, therefore not being able to deal with it efficiently. In such a short game, this is something that can happen, even to the best players. It's not like Rain was looking that bad compared to Dream. On the other hand , the first game was quite long and pretty close.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 22 2012 13:02 GMT
#1584
Oh wow. Rain is out of the GSL. LOL! So much for his decision to go to MLG.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 22 2012 13:07 GMT
#1585
On November 22 2012 21:50 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Why is GSL suddenly seem so random in last couple months? Wasn't like this before.

Well, you certainly had some big names dropping out of GSL before (MC, MKP, DRG, etc.). The fan favorites just don't seem to be playing that well anymore :T
:)
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 22 2012 13:07 GMT
#1586
On November 22 2012 22:02 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Rain is out of the GSL. LOL! So much for his decision to go to MLG.


Well, if he's lost to Dream, he would've had a hard time in Code S...
(Considering his MLG results as well...)
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 22 2012 13:08 GMT
#1587
And everywhere GSL producers let out a sigh of relief, flash didn't drop
In the woods, there lurks..
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 22 2012 13:09 GMT
#1588
On November 22 2012 22:08 Iplaythings wrote:
And everywhere GSL producers let out a sigh of relief, flash didn't drop


Mr chae can now sit at the high roller table in vegas! :p
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 22 2012 13:10 GMT
#1589
On November 22 2012 22:07 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 22:02 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Rain is out of the GSL. LOL! So much for his decision to go to MLG.


Well, if he's lost to Dream, he would've had a hard time in Code S...
(Considering his MLG results as well...)

his MLG was pretty good, losing only to leenock and bomber (who is such a strange player)
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
November 22 2012 13:16 GMT
#1590
On November 22 2012 22:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 22:08 Iplaythings wrote:
And everywhere GSL producers let out a sigh of relief, flash didn't drop


Mr chae can now sit at the high roller table in vegas! :p


Well maybe the middle roller table. High roller would be if he also had a star studded Ro4 to bring to america. And all those extra seats since not one of the GSL ranking people for WC made semis. And MVP isn't coming.

I wonder if they're sort of happy Rain fell out since he caused that scheduling kerfuffle in the first place? I find an odd sense of karma in this haha.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 22 2012 13:20 GMT
#1591
Wow, I wake up and Rain's hype train has been derailed and sent crashing into Code B?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 22 2012 13:21 GMT
#1592
On November 22 2012 22:20 sitromit wrote:
Wow, I wake up and Rain's hype train has been derailed and sent crashing into Code B?


His Dream is over
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
November 22 2012 13:26 GMT
#1593
rain reign is over

bye

time for flash to flash it up
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
November 22 2012 13:35 GMT
#1594
On November 22 2012 22:20 sitromit wrote:
Wow, I wake up and Rain's hype train has been derailed and sent crashing into Code B?

Watch him win the next OSL or something. It's time people start realizing that code B/A/S means pretty much nothing and GSL as a tournament doesn't determine anything except who the GSL champion is.
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
November 22 2012 13:37 GMT
#1595
On November 22 2012 21:50 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Why is GSL suddenly seem so random in last couple months? Wasn't like this before.

Kinda have the same feeling.
Sad that so few players are consistent
or maybe its just the game which doesn't allow it?
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 22 2012 13:40 GMT
#1596
On November 22 2012 22:35 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 22:20 sitromit wrote:
Wow, I wake up and Rain's hype train has been derailed and sent crashing into Code B?

Watch him win the next OSL or something. It's time people start realizing that code B/A/S means pretty much nothing and GSL as a tournament doesn't determine anything except who the GSL champion is.

GSLs mean a whole lot more than OSLs atm
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 22 2012 13:40 GMT
#1597
On November 22 2012 22:35 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 22:20 sitromit wrote:
Wow, I wake up and Rain's hype train has been derailed and sent crashing into Code B?

Watch him win the next OSL or something. It's time people start realizing that code B/A/S means pretty much nothing and GSL as a tournament doesn't determine anything except who the GSL champion is.


u must be a wizard
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
November 22 2012 13:41 GMT
#1598
Well so much for establishing some order at the top of the ranks, it seems that ultimately there is no best player in the world right now, and not even a clear best player for any race.

I'm just happy Flash made it through, at least he gets a guaranteed shot at the up and downs again.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
November 22 2012 13:44 GMT
#1599
Lol, people in this thread hating on Rain.

No one ever thinks (hell, even Wolf said this on stream) that it might not even have been his own decision to pull out from Code S?

The frequent and recent traveling does hurt the focus of such players. While Rain was up, flying around and not practicing, you got Dream, an underrated player, practicing hard as hell for this particular match up. It isn't so far-fetched that Rain lost as a result.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 13:46:28
November 22 2012 13:45 GMT
#1600
On November 22 2012 21:53 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 21:43 Ragnarork wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:39 samurai80 wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:38 Ragnarork wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:25 samurai80 wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:20 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:18 samurai80 wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:15 Vorenius wrote:
On November 22 2012 21:13 habeck wrote:
how did Rain lost? was it macro or cheese?

Picked apart by awesome multitasking.

I would say Rain just didn't have enough defense and Dream really well took advantage of it with multiprong attacks.

Isn't this the exact same thing as getting outplayed?

Outplayed it's like Rain is loosing because having less skills. Imo it's more Dream hitting a good timing with the right composition.


Damn it's hard to admit Rain has been outplayed by a low tier player this night.

Dream was really not looking low tier tonight though. He played really well.


Sure, but it's the first feat of this kind he pulled iirc.

I remember him appearing here and there and sometimes losing series a bit closer than you thought he would against good players, but that's all.

Here, he 2-0'ed convincingly Rain, which is somewhat really honorable !

If he keeps this going, then he'll climb the tier, that's what I'm implying by this.

I agree with this.

But reading comments here, it looks like Dream had a better multitask (which might be the case), winning the game because of his total dominance in micro and macro (what I call ouplay) and that's where I agree. On the second game Rain did make a few mistakes but his loss was most of all due to him not reading the situation well enough beforehand, therefore not preparing well enough, therefore not being able to deal with it efficiently. In such a short game, this is something that can happen, even to the best players. It's not like Rain was looking that bad compared to Dream. On the other hand , the first game was quite long and pretty close.


The first game was long but Rain made many mistakes in it too. His biggest mistake in that game was sending 5 high templars to their death in the middle of the map, forgetting to pull them back with the rest of his army. The english observer missed it but the Korean observer obviously didn't because you could hear the Korean casters go loud at that moment.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
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