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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:49 X3GoldDot wrote: creator got 8th in WCS asia leenock also won 2 MLGs before and got 2nd place in GSL before Rain didnt get 3rd in Wcs korea, parting got 3rd, rain got 6th. eh close enough | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:49 BeholdOblivion wrote: And the change needed is in late-game Zerg. And early game Toss. Basically everything about PvZ needs to change. Everything. 200/200 roach, immortal allin, broodlord infestor, vortex, 3 base timing hitting before hive. God this matchup hurts my head with so many things I hate. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:50 Laryleprakon wrote: Also according to twitter next years BWC will be held at blizzcon (hopefully back in the US) I hope they take feed back about this year and make it bigger/better. Noooooo... Why isn't Blizzard giving it to DH!?!?!?!?!?!! | ||
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BeholdOblivion
United States72 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote: What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. With the game balanced the way it is, a bonjwa will be hard to come by. Almost all the matchups are based on a knifes edge instead of allowing someone with greater skill to show it in a longer, drawn-out game. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:48 letian wrote: Whoever says Rain is overhyped is just ignorant. Creator is indeed the best if not the best player now. Rain's inability to play well against early aggression has been spotted by Babyknight. We all saw it. However Rain is the best toss when it comes to late game engagements. I don't remember a game, where Rain lost in lategame PvP. Everybody knows that, so do the players. They go with risky builds to get an early win from him. Rain definitely has to work on this. This is non sense. This is starcraft II, not Macrocraft II. Rain used to be the best for like a mth, but he's just a top toss player now. Plenty of ppl could beat him, even babyknight, no offense man, u did great. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:46 TimENT wrote: And I hated it. But for the most part PvZ is just a clusterfuck of boringness. Terran's 111 was much MORE entertaining than WonWonWon though. There was tons of tension watching the Protoss stall as much time as possible to break the push. Siege tanks instantly make any matchup better. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
Let's just settle for the fact that Rain, Creator, and Parting are top tier Protoss. | ||
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Astro-Penguin
554 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:51 TimENT wrote: And early game Toss. Basically everything about PvZ needs to change. Everything. 200/200 roach, immortal allin, broodlord infestor, vortex, 3 base timing hitting before hive. God this matchup hurts my head with so many things I hate. Honestly I would preferably just like to see a HUGE map overhaul rather than balance changes, the current maps are largely responsible for this metagame. The fact that Daybreak is considered and probably is our best map is excusableness. | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:51 WindWolf wrote: Noooooo... Why isn't Blizzard giving it to DH!?!?!?!?!?!! maybe because Blizzard is based in the US | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:51 TimENT wrote: And early game Toss. Basically everything about PvZ needs to change. Everything. 200/200 roach, immortal allin, broodlord infestor, vortex, 3 base timing hitting before hive. God this matchup hurts my head with so many things I hate. The entire game needs changes tbqh. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
WONWONWON!! | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:52 dcemuser wrote: It's going to be hard for people to accept, but you're very rarely going to have a "true best" at a race. Let's just settle for the fact that Rain, Creator, and Parting are top tier Protoss. dont forget seed  | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:51 WindWolf wrote: Noooooo... Why isn't Blizzard giving it to DH!?!?!?!?!?!! They didn't say where, maybe a EU Blizzcon. would be easier to use some of the DH guys in the US anyways. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:51 BeholdOblivion wrote: With the game balanced the way it is, a bonjwa will be hard to come by. Almost all the matchups are based on a knifes edge instead of allowing someone with greater skill to show it in a longer, drawn-out game. knifes edge games can be pretty damn exciting though | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
Meaning Sen gets third place | ||
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Woizit
801 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote: What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:52 Astro-Penguin wrote: Honestly I would preferably just like to see a HUGE map overhaul rather than balance changes, the current maps are largely responsible for this metagame. The fact that Daybreak is considered and probably is our best map is excusableness. Naw, maps won't change the unit interactions between Toss and Zerg. The interactions are so awful :/ | ||
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