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On November 18 2012 16:48 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:47 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:43 Ammanas wrote:On November 18 2012 16:40 Astro-Penguin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions Creator is better, blame casters for over hyping players that are not at the level that they are being hyped up to be (Parting/Rain specifically) wtf are you talking about? Have you ever seen Rain's PvZ and PvT? Or Parting's PvT few months ago? I agree that Parting is not the best P in the world, even that Creator is better, but top 3 Ps right now are 1.) Rain 2.) Creator 3.) Parting... And before you will write it, no, 1 Bo5 PvP series means nothing. SC2 is a little bit more complicated than that. fortunately. Those were like a month old results. This is not SC1, a lot of things evolved in 1 mth time. Rain's recent results are still on top, but just it. Not that best protoss he used to be. He lost to Leenock, even hyvaa in PvZ, Bomber for god sake, for PvT. I just want to add that losing to Bomber in PvT is nothing to be ashamed of, Bomber has the best TvP in the world and he destroys every P.
This is the new hype train ?
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On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If i remember correctly early days of BW did not have very stable champions. IDK why people seem to romanticize old day so hard to the point there they make stuff up. When you had the domanance if players in BW it was later in the scene
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On November 18 2012 16:48 Astro-Penguin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:46 tuho12345 wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions well go watch other games then. If Rain was good, he would have stop that already. I've seen plenty players stop 4 gates with 3 gates on top of the ramp. Rain didn't snipe the probe but chase the stalkers instead. He blocked the ramp with 3 pylons for no reason. Warping in bunch of sentry in panic mode. People keep on trying to recreate a new Flash for SC2 and its severely painful to see happen Who want another Flash in SC2 anyway? What's the point of watching when you're already know who'd win.
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Parting sold his soul. He lost in GSL and IPL Hyun Club as payment for his soulful wonwonwon
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On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent
creator got 8th in WCS asia leenock also won 2 MLGs before and got 2nd place in GSL before Rain didnt get 3rd in Wcs korea, parting got 3rd, rain got 6th.
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On November 18 2012 16:48 emjaytron wrote: subtle dig by apollo - something needs to change indeed
And the change needed is in late-game Zerg.
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I'm kind of enjoying how well Parting is playing the role of villain, here.
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If Parting all-in's again I'm just going to bed. Results =/= entertainment.
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I hope he does the WonWonWon again, just for the lulz
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On November 18 2012 16:49 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:47 Dodgin wrote: Rain will not lose to Sen in the third place match, no way.
Sen is getting 4th sadly, his streak of third place will be broken. What? Sen 3-2 Parting
Impossible. 3rd is an impossibility then.
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Also according to twitter next years BWC will be held at blizzcon (hopefully back in the US)
I hope they take feed back about this year and make it bigger/better.
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On November 18 2012 16:45 ultratorr wrote:Do you think Rain actually doesn't know how exactly 4 gate is stopped? I mean, when he started playing, people didn't really 4-gate much any more right? Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:43 m0ck wrote: Creator vs  Rain Game 5 - Cloud KingdomAs creator decided on an agressive 4-gate build, a hero-scout from Rain managed to enter the base and scout the gates just as they were put down. Creator was undeterred and managed to put down pylons at the edge of the base of Rain with a two-probe fake-put, but a pylon-wall at the top of the ramp and warp-ins of sentries looked to end the aggression easily. Somehow the foolhardy one-mindedness of the attack proved successful as Rain mismanaged his defense and the superior firepower of stalkers and zealots overpowered the sentries on top of the ramp.  Rain, the coolest cat of them all, chokes and allows a scouted four-gate to punch through his defense as Creator takes another step towards the throne. exactly what I thought, he lost to some other toss by 4 gates too not long ago
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On November 18 2012 16:48 letian wrote: Whoever says Rain is overhyped is just ignorant. Creator is indeed the best if not the best player now. Rain's inability to play well against early aggression has been spotted by Babyknight. We all saw it. However Rain is the best toss when it comes to late game engagements. I don't remember a game, where Rain lost in lategame PvP. Everybody knows that, so do the players. They go with risky builds to get an early win from him. Rain definitely has to work on this. anyone who says rain is overhyped is an idiot now
it could have been said the first time he was in code S ("oh luck w/e") but he's proven many times he can perform extremely well.
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15 hatch vs parting i like it.
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On November 18 2012 16:49 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:48 Astro-Penguin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:46 tuho12345 wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions well go watch other games then. If Rain was good, he would have stop that already. I've seen plenty players stop 4 gates with 3 gates on top of the ramp. Rain didn't snipe the probe but chase the stalkers instead. He blocked the ramp with 3 pylons for no reason. Warping in bunch of sentry in panic mode. People keep on trying to recreate a new Flash for SC2 and its severely painful to see happen Who want another Flash in SC2 anyway? What's the point of watching when you're already know who'd win. flash is the new flash. wait till hots comes out and reset the meta game
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On November 18 2012 16:49 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:48 Dodgin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:47 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:43 Ammanas wrote:On November 18 2012 16:40 Astro-Penguin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions Creator is better, blame casters for over hyping players that are not at the level that they are being hyped up to be (Parting/Rain specifically) wtf are you talking about? Have you ever seen Rain's PvZ and PvT? Or Parting's PvT few months ago? I agree that Parting is not the best P in the world, even that Creator is better, but top 3 Ps right now are 1.) Rain 2.) Creator 3.) Parting... And before you will write it, no, 1 Bo5 PvP series means nothing. SC2 is a little bit more complicated than that. fortunately. Those were like a month old results. This is not SC1, a lot of things evolved in 1 mth time. Rain's recent results are still on top, but just it. Not that best protoss he used to be. He lost to Leenock, even hyvaa in PvZ, Bomber for god sake, for PvT. I just want to add that losing to Bomber in PvT is nothing to be ashamed of, Bomber has the best TvP in the world and he destroys every P. This is the new hype train ?
One of the oldest hype trains in the short history of this game, actually.
But it still holds true, lately Bomber has not lost TvP at all, he wrecks everyone.
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On November 18 2012 16:49 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:48 Dodgin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:47 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:43 Ammanas wrote:On November 18 2012 16:40 Astro-Penguin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions Creator is better, blame casters for over hyping players that are not at the level that they are being hyped up to be (Parting/Rain specifically) wtf are you talking about? Have you ever seen Rain's PvZ and PvT? Or Parting's PvT few months ago? I agree that Parting is not the best P in the world, even that Creator is better, but top 3 Ps right now are 1.) Rain 2.) Creator 3.) Parting... And before you will write it, no, 1 Bo5 PvP series means nothing. SC2 is a little bit more complicated than that. fortunately. Those were like a month old results. This is not SC1, a lot of things evolved in 1 mth time. Rain's recent results are still on top, but just it. Not that best protoss he used to be. He lost to Leenock, even hyvaa in PvZ, Bomber for god sake, for PvT. I just want to add that losing to Bomber in PvT is nothing to be ashamed of, Bomber has the best TvP in the world and he destroys every P. This is the new hype train ?
Yeah I'm actually scared that people are going to realize how good Bombers TvP is and begin copying him, He pretty owned Naniwa just as bad to
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i love a challenge :D nothing wrong with this immortal all-in yet
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On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote: this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent
What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though..
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On November 18 2012 16:47 Dodgin wrote: Rain will not lose to Sen in the third place match, no way.
Sen is getting 4th sadly, his streak of third place will be broken.
Did´nt you claim yesterday, that Rain would never lose to Babyknight as well? Rain is not unbeatable, although under normal circumstances he should be favored against Sen.
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