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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:50 Cramsy wrote: you do know when they engage that terran will actually lose units? The T army will actually still take losses regardless how fast the colo die? It's not like JYP was attacking with pure colossus So? You still need 20+ Vikings against 7 Colossi, end of story. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I'm not saying "everyone was worse back then therefore NesTea is bad". I'm saying that almost all of the people who he beat were actually really bad, even for that time's standards. (the only exceptions that come to mind are MKP and sC). Every time he faced an opponent of his calibre he got destroyed (Mvp was the first to illustrate this, then MMA in August) If he had to face Mvp in every one of his GSLs I doubt he would have won more than a single one. But it's moot to argue about it now. I don't think he'll drop out of GSL altogether too soon, given that he's good at preparing and usually lucky with brackets (which is the point I was trying to make all this time). We'll see. Go back and look at the brackets, he beat great players in his open run and a mix of good and not so good players in his other two runs. Either way he deserved 3 championships. | ||
Waxangel
United States33454 Posts
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:53 X3GoldDot wrote: of course i know, wtf, i was pointing out that EG curse is bullshit But they already did that O_o | ||
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jackdaleaper
Philippines1216 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I'm not saying "everyone was worse back then therefore NesTea is bad". I'm saying that almost all of the people who he beat were actually really bad, even for that time's standards. (the only exceptions that come to mind are MKP and sC). Every time he faced an opponent of his calibre he got destroyed (Mvp was the first to illustrate this, then MMA in August) If he had to face Mvp in every one of his GSLs I doubt he would have won more than a single one. Why didn't he face MVP in every one of his Finals appearances? Overall, I do agree that MVP is better than Nestea but that doesn't mean he can't win against him in a bo3. If Nestea made it to a GSL finals and won it we can't argue that he was the best player that season and we shouldn't take anything away from his accomplishments by saying he only got there because all the players he beat were bad. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:54 Waxangel wrote: did he not watch the creator series? those lings gonna get in :D cursed | ||
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Waxangel
United States33454 Posts
noope, exact same as creator series, waits for first cancel, runs lings in agian | ||
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Gesarjack
Switzerland117 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:52 MCDayC wrote: LOL, I hate to break it to you, but some people manage to be anti-fans of Stephano. I can only speak for myself but I could see this being due to french casters. That works for all sports. French commentators always have had a way of making me wish to see french people losing. | ||
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boxman22
Canada430 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:52 Jehct wrote: ...the whole point of the video about the curse your referencing is that there's empirical, unarguable evidence that it doesn't fucking exist. It's venting frustration at people like you in a really hilarious, and indirectly mocking, way. You make my head hurt. Whatever people will always believe crazy things. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:53 IshinShishi wrote: jyp was sending astray hts everywhere without backup, basically donating units if the terran in control was someone like byun, he used storms to retreat like once or twice out of his 15 fail storms. Astray implies lost. Like he randomly move-commanded them to some places and forgot about them. It was pretty obviously that he didn't that game. Entombed Valley is a big map and I'll admit that by doing what he did he made huge risks. But it paid off. SC2 = risky game. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:51 Porcelina wrote: If it goes Life > JYP Nova > Nestea Nova > JYP I will be so sad, as that was what I was intending. But it would just look wonky. Plus I think JYP has a very good chance indeed to beat Life. That's actually not unlikely IMO. I know StarCraft can be very volatile and hard to predict at times, but Life is an insane beast at the moment, SuperNoVa can definitely beat NesTea, especially if the latter is tilted, and then SuperNoVa vs JYP... I'm not sure. SuperNoVa has shown some sick TvP in the past, coupled with momentum of JYP losing his winners' match and NoVa winning his losers'. It's possible. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:55 Noocta wrote: I don't think i've seen someone microing one ling that hard for a long time lol Yet in the end the almighty Probe prevailed. | ||
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JJH777
United States4414 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I'm not saying "everyone was worse back then therefore NesTea is bad". I'm saying that almost all of the people who he beat were actually really bad, even for that time's standards. (the only exceptions that come to mind are MKP and sC). Every time he faced an opponent of his calibre he got destroyed (Mvp was the first to illustrate this, then MMA in August) If he had to face Mvp in every one of his GSLs I doubt he would have won more than a single one. But it's moot to argue about it now. I don't think he'll drop out of GSL altogether too soon, given that he's good at preparing and usually lucky with brackets (which is the point I was trying to make all this time). We'll see. MVP never destroyed Nestea. The first time they played in GSL January Nestea was the only person to take a game off MVP that season and the series was overall very close. The next time they played wasn't till GSL August and Nestea did get 2-0'd there but the first game was close and the second was a bunker wall at base entrance. There next match was Blizzcon which was an extremely close 3-4. Then they played again in October and Nestea was up 2-1 with an extremely strong lead in game 4 (literally in a position where if he attacks he almost gets a guaranteed win but unfortunately he didn't and the game went long and eventually turned around for MVP but the series was still very close. As for MMA yes he lost to him in August but he beat him in the very next GSL so... I don't get how you can say that Nestea was destroyed both the games were very close and Nestea won one of them. The overall post is dumb as well. If you make a GSL finals you aren't bad and Nestea's path wasn't ever that easy he just made it look like it was because he was so amazing relative to other players. Losira at the time of the Nestea vs Losira finals was the second best zerg and without a doubt a top 5 player in the world and had made a name for himself with amazing ZvZ. Nestea 4-0'd him. sC was probably the best TvZer in the world at the time of his and Nestea's semifinal match. Coca and July were both top 5 zergs at the times Nestea beat them. Maybe he would have lost if he met MVP (mostly because of MVP seems to have a psychological edge against him) it's not his fault MVP was busy dropping to Code A and losing in the ro32 of Code S. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33454 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:56 MasterOfPuppets wrote: That's actually not unlikely IMO. I know StarCraft can be very volatile and hard to predict at times, but Life is an insane beast at the moment, SuperNoVa can definitely beat NesTea, especially if the latter is tilted, and then SuperNoVa vs JYP... I'm not sure. SuperNoVa has shown some sick TvP in the past, coupled with momentum of JYP losing his winners' match and NoVa winning his losers'. It's possible. And given that Life practiced for ZvP a lot lately (yes he lost, but still) he'd be prepared for someone as good as JYP | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:54 TheDwf wrote: So? You still need 20+ Vikings against 7 Colossi, end of story. You're literally arguing for 40+ supply of units that are going to be useless when the insta-remax happens. The whole point of major engagements in TvP is that you have to take such a huge advantage that you can't lose to the faster remax. With that much supply that's essentially dead weight you're not going to do that. | ||
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Spaiku
Spain1114 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:57 Waxangel wrote: why would you go not-immortal all-in on this map :D Because zerg didn't take a third -_- | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33454 Posts
you should do it anyway D: | ||
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