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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1181
On September 06 2012 21:30 billywayne wrote:
and people complain about late game tvp


You realise Byun had about 2-3x the army value of Genius for about 15 minutes, right?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1182
On September 06 2012 21:26 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:25 Hassybaby wrote:
On September 06 2012 21:23 FataLe wrote:
On September 06 2012 21:22 Hassybaby wrote:
On September 06 2012 21:20 FataLe wrote:
On September 06 2012 21:19 Dodgin wrote:
Byun making TvP late game look Terran favored here.

It favours those with better control.


It favours those who are better players

Nope. Untrue.
Late-game, and the way SC2 Mechanics are set up, you'll likely lose the game if you lose the 200/200 battle soundly.
In late-game TvP, control reigns supreme.


So are you saying the guy with better control is still a worse player? Because it's not just control, it's decision making, positioning and correct transition choices

And multitasking

How many games have you seen a Terran get a mid-game lead only to lose the 200/200 end-game battle and then go onto lose the game?

I'm saying is you can be a better player, and have played the game better up until that point. But at the late-game in TvP, Control is the biggest deciding factor (more often than not) in which side wins.


And I'm saying that control is not the only factor that makes up the late game, and a LOT of games have proven that.

And I've seen a lot of Terran get a mid-game lead and totally fuck up the area where they're fighting and lose everything
Or a Terran get a mid-game lead, not properly see what his opponent is doing and be caught off guard and lose his army
Or a Terran get a mid-game lead, see the tech path his Toss opponent is going and not to anything about it
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1183
haha. That was funny.
DougJDempsey
Profile Joined April 2010
747 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1184
On September 06 2012 21:29 Tsubbi wrote:
dat troll ghost omfg so funny


lol how is that a troll? mass ghosts are good, they are just too ridiculously expensive to mass like that unless you are on 5 base with a 2500 bank.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1185
On September 06 2012 21:30 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:29 Dodgin wrote:
Mass ghosts with EMP is the new mass snipe

get ready for EMP to get nerfed again

before all the nerfs ghosts were so fucking amazing, I can't believe Terran's complained about late game anything.
how is byun doing now?


That was not late game... That was late late game which terrans never complained about (BCs, mass ravens, mass ghosts)
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1186
Very impressive play from Byun. A lot of terrans seem lost in late game TvP but Byun's positioning the entire game was excellent along with his unit control.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1187
Trollghost makes the game For sure!
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1188
Damn, that was a sweet game. Awsome way to play lategame TvP
Bora Pain minha porra!
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1189
Archons? What Archons?
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1190
It's like that one haunted house in super mario world.

GHOSTS! EVERYWHERE!

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1191
So why exactly didnt Byun want to go to the late game vs Rain?
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1192
Ghosts have only one small problem - they make almost no dmg :p
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
September 06 2012 12:31 GMT
#1193
byun looks like a skeleton with skin
yo
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1194
that looked like an orbital bombardment rather then ghosts shooting emp rounds. Looked so beautiful.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1195
On September 06 2012 18:41 Hypemeup wrote:
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On September 06 2012 18:40 Blacktion wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:39 etherealfall wrote:
wow. who needs the oracle when 2 high templars kill SO MUCH.

Especially when warp in storms are returning in HOTS


Wait, for real?

That would be so fucking stupid.

Unless something has changed since i looked at the stats then yes. With the mothership core having 200 energy, and energize being 25 energy, a mothership core can fill 8 HTs energy gauges, giving them 2 storms each. That means with some quick warp ins and a few casts you can have up to 16 storms at the expansion the terran is pushing after killing your army, limited up to the 16 by your bank (templars you can produce) and core energy (even at low energy, say 50, you can fill 2 HTs energy, giving 4 warp in storms).
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1196
So many EMPs. Genius' army just melted away after. So fun to watch.

A true GhostKing.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1197
THis looks like pvt from pre emp nerv, juck >.< Not sure why terrans stopped doing this, Im not sure what genius couldve done to prevent this from happening, looks incredible strong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1198
On September 06 2012 21:31 Avicularia wrote:
Ghosts have only one small problem - they make almost no dmg :p


Ghosts actually do pretty sick damage especially vs zealots
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1199
On September 06 2012 21:30 billywayne wrote:
and people complain about late game tvp


Well, if you make only archons vs mass ghosts, u will have some troubles. Also spending billion mineral in photons is so strange...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1200
On September 06 2012 21:31 Avicularia wrote:
Ghosts have only one small problem - they make almost no dmg :p


They 3 shot a Nexus.
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30 ghosts did.
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