[WCS KR] LR2 D2 - Page 66

On August 17 2012 20:39 Killmouse wrote:

are you kidding ? there were no Kespa player left after round 1 ,thats why gsl players are playin each other, logic dude

On August 17 2012 20:43 Shock710 wrote:

lol, well IEM is probaby more interesting atm

On August 17 2012 20:47 Ragnarork wrote:


Though I enjoy the games whoever play, and I especially like to see how BW pro figure out SC2 (with a different look at the game considering their BW experience), I can't help but thinking this tournament isn't showing the reality. (Oh and by the way, this is the loser bracket...)

The pressure from facing BW pro isn't something that should be underestimated. By the way, I mean, most BW pros playing in WCS has more pro gaming experience than SC2 players only, they have like 4 - 5 years at least (I don't know the scene that much, but the current BW pros are around for some time now, like 2007 - 2008 for those I know). Though it's not SC2 experience, they have practiced mechanics for a much longer time, and can be good not only at BW, but more generally at RTS.

Then, even Jaedong stated that he doesn't feel like GOM players are at their highest level, when he played Genius.

I think we'll need more time, like let the players know each other side (Kespa or GOM) a bit more, and then see who stay, and who falls. This was the very first cross tournament (the Gom Action ready was quite a farce) between the two groups, I wouldn't be surprised this doesn't show the reality of this transition.

Then, Kespa players seem to have reached a skill not that far from GOM players really quickly, and that's promising. I hope it doesn't surpass by far the skill of GOM's when they reach their peak, because as they stated, it's quite stupid if one group is completely ahead of the other, which ever it is, because you end up with far less competitors, and then far less competition...

Then, I just want to see the best one(s) win, and get the deserved recognition.

On August 17 2012 20:41 klops wrote:


how does he think the kespa players ended up in losers?

they weren't seeded there, lol.

On August 17 2012 20:44 Squeegy wrote:


No, I am pointing it out that even though GSL players are in the WB, they didn't stay there by beating a Kespa player, but A GSL player (who beat a Kespa player). That is meant to show that it wasn't like these WB GSL players stayed there by dominating Kespa. The guys who originally beat Kespa mostly lost this week. All I'm saying is that "look at WB, lolo" does not make the point they wish it to make.

On August 17 2012 20:50 Jacmert wrote:

You do realize, though, that by that logic you can always question the legitimacy of any winner or champion because unless they beat every single other player who participated in the tournament, you can be like, "well, you didn't beat my favorite player so-and-so who got knocked out in the Round of 16, so therefore I won't give you credit for doing better than him." Every tournament champion wins by beating only a small percentage of the players at that tournament.

We make the winners of each round play each other in the hopes that it means the better players will continue to advance until we find the "best" player. It's more complicated than that and it's not the perfect way to find the "best" player (it depends on how you define that, I guess), but that's the general idea that every sport follows and it's the best system we've got I think.

On August 17 2012 20:44 Squeegy wrote:


No, I am pointing it out that even though GSL players are in the WB, they didn't stay there by beating a Kespa player, but A GSL player (who beat a Kespa player). That is meant to show that it wasn't like these WB GSL players stayed there by dominating Kespa. The guys who originally beat Kespa mostly lost this week. All I'm saying is that "look at WB, lolo" does not make the point they wish it to make.

On August 17 2012 20:54 Squeegy wrote:


You're reading too much into what I said. All I am saying is that the WB GSL guys have (mostly) not played against the Kespa guys. That's all.