On July 12 2012 19:57 Salteador Neo wrote: Void Rays are terribad unless in allins... And even then they are gimmicky. Needs some rework in HotS for sure imo.
Protoss air units that attack both air/ground are DESTINED to be useless. Look at scout in bw ^^.
Woah woah, Scouts are on a totally different level, even SC2 Hydras are imba compared to Scouts.
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
Kind of. But not really. Game 1 was an allin, don't get me wrong, but it was something clever that we have never seen before.
Game 2 was standard "Protoss allin. If win, win, if lose, lose."
If he had allined, failed, and then safely transitioned somehow and they were still playing, it would be a much more interesting game. As it is, it was a basic allin that people have seen hundreds of times before.
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
On July 12 2012 19:58 SeungHwan wrote: Seemed like things were going naniwa's way since DRG never really saw all the gates but he didn't exectue the build well and lose some unnecessary units. Wonder what type of builds Naniwa will do now.
drg saw few stalkers and sentries moving out from the main so he could guess that it's not standard void ray zealot pressure
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
4 gate isn't all in? Oh how times has change.
4gate of 1 base is an all-in ye, but it was of 2 bases
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
4 gate isn't all in? Oh how times has change.
Yea 4 gate on 2 bases is TOTALLY all in, and always has been....
On July 12 2012 19:57 Salteador Neo wrote: Void Rays are terribad unless in allins... And even then they are gimmicky. Needs some rework in HotS for sure imo.
Protoss air units that attack both air/ground are DESTINED to be useless. Look at scout in bw ^^.
Woah woah, Scouts are on a totally different level, even SC2 Hydras are imba compared to Scouts.
sc2 hydras are pretty nice :\ , I'm waiting on a queen hydra ZvT composition to be invented
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
4 gate isn't all in? Oh how times has change.
4gate of 2base is just pressure and incredibly standard in pvz, don't spout nonsense
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
4 gate isn't all in? Oh how times has change.
4 gate from two bases. The 4 gate all-in is from 1 base.
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
4 gate isn't all in? Oh how times has change.
4-gate has always referred to 1-base...This is so basic...how can people not know this.
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
On July 12 2012 19:57 hyptonic wrote: what allin will nani do next?
The first game wasn't an all in. It was 4 gate pressure. The stalker attack later was reactionary because he already did enough damage so DRG couldn't defend.
4 gate isn't all in? Oh how times has change.
1 gate expand into 4 gate pressure isn't an allin, compared to 20 probe 4gate allin with no expand.
He did transition into the 7 gate allin, (i think, didn't see his probe count), but he could have gone out of that 4gate into a third base pretty easily I think.