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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 16 2012 07:11 GMT
#241
On July 16 2012 16:05 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 16:03 HolyArrow wrote:
Are there going to be English casters for this?


Probably not. Kespa doesn't have permission to stream internationally from Blizzard until the beginning of the OSL. Which is considered the Round of 16, apparently.


Ouch, so there won't even be a stream?
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 16 2012 07:14 GMT
#242
International != no stream.

anyways, "(LIVE)스타리그 듀얼2012 시즌2" 19:30 KST 07/16 is this event, so normal broadcast.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 16 2012 07:19 GMT
#243
On July 16 2012 16:14 N.geNuity wrote:
International != no stream.

anyways, "(LIVE)스타리그 듀얼2012 시즌2" 19:30 KST 07/16 is this event, so normal broadcast.


Interesting. What exactly is the definition of "streaming internationally" then? Couldn't a caster like Khaldor potentially set up his own stream and just cast from there (similar to what he's doing with the GSL vs. KeSPA Cross matches?)
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 16 2012 07:28 GMT
#244
Korean tournemtns are always on so late for me. Oh well at least OSL VODs are free ^^
eSports for life.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 16 2012 07:35 GMT
#245
gogo Mvp!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
July 16 2012 07:41 GMT
#246
I don't understand why there wouldn't be an english broadcast.

Korea is freaking small, it's tiny and insignificant compared to the rest of the entire international SC2 scene, there are more viewers that tune in to watch events then there are people that live in korea. Why would they not take care of this free money from stream viewers? Do they want to goto sponsors and say "yeah we could get an additional 1-2 million more viewers added on for your products but we don't feel like it" or something?

Mind boggling, this may just be pre-lims but I hope they cater to the enormous foreign scene in addition to the korean scene.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 16 2012 07:43 GMT
#247
I wanna see DRG go through all the way without any lost games and claim 2nd place in the finals. C'mon guys! It's an OSL so that should happen. Wait no that was the MSL. Speaking of an MSL.


The above was a joke, I honestly don't have many thoughts about continuation of legends.

If MVP plays at the level we're familiar with from 2011 I think he'll go through really well. Same with DRG (although DRG's been pretty beastial recently too).
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
July 16 2012 07:44 GMT
#248
On July 16 2012 16:43 IntoTheheart wrote:
I wanna see DRG go through all the way without any lost games and claim 2nd place in the finals. C'mon guys! It's an OSL so that should happen. Wait no that was the MSL. Speaking of an MSL.


The above was a joke, I honestly don't have many thoughts about continuation of legends.

If MVP plays at the level we're familiar with from 2011 I think he'll go through really well. Same with DRG (although DRG's been pretty beastial recently too).


MVP has freed himself up from the GSL to prep for the OSL only so that's in his favor while DRG has to prepare for GSL and OSL.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 16 2012 07:53 GMT
#249
Bo1 is fine everyone. It's about time we shed the fear of SC2 games being short, cheesy and excessively volatile. That was true in 2010 but it's 2012 now. Imba early game strats have been nerfed, maps are enormous and the metagame has stabilized. If your favorite player is eliminated then it's because he was worse than his opponent, not because of the format.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 16 2012 08:02 GMT
#250
On July 16 2012 16:53 red4ce wrote:
Bo1 is fine everyone. It's about time we shed the fear of SC2 games being short, cheesy and excessively volatile. That was true in 2010 but it's 2012 now. Imba early game strats have been nerfed, maps are enormous and the metagame has stabilized. If your favorite player is eliminated then it's because he was worse than his opponent, not because of the format.

Bo1 is also how the original OSLs were done for the group stage, I think that they wanted a similar style of tournament because (AFAIK) it is still an OSL.
kiss kiss fall in love
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 16 2012 08:05 GMT
#251
Anyone know if MVP is actually going to be there? Or if his Injury has had to make him take a step back yet?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 08:07:14
July 16 2012 08:06 GMT
#252
On July 16 2012 17:05 Pandemona wrote:
Anyone know if MVP is actually going to be there? Or if his Injury has had to make him take a step back yet?

Why won't he be there? His injury last I heard is getting better (he hasn't really mentioned it for a long time in interviews). He even managed to fly to Germany to play at HSC.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
July 16 2012 08:10 GMT
#253
On July 16 2012 17:06 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 17:05 Pandemona wrote:
Anyone know if MVP is actually going to be there? Or if his Injury has had to make him take a step back yet?

Why won't he be there? His injury last I heard is getting better (he hasn't really mentioned it for a long time in interviews). He even managed to fly to Germany to play at HSC.

At HSC was where his injury manifested itself again.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 16 2012 08:11 GMT
#254
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/w6yat/mvps_injury_cervical_kyphosis/

Is what i mean xD I haven't heard anything from him since HSC though, so i hope he can be treated and can get back to playing.
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 16 2012 08:11 GMT
#255
On July 16 2012 17:10 Surrealistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 17:06 pdd wrote:
On July 16 2012 17:05 Pandemona wrote:
Anyone know if MVP is actually going to be there? Or if his Injury has had to make him take a step back yet?

Why won't he be there? His injury last I heard is getting better (he hasn't really mentioned it for a long time in interviews). He even managed to fly to Germany to play at HSC.

At HSC was where his injury manifested itself again.

Hmm.. either way, his injury never stopped him from playing at local events before. Only stopped him from travelling to IPLs and MLGs.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 08:14:37
July 16 2012 08:13 GMT
#256
Someone needs to teach OSL how to run a SC2 tournament. Things are much different in SC2 then it was in BW. In SC2, a map can have an impact on who wins or loses. Best of 1's? It shouldn't be done. Mostly because people can just cheese in each BO1 and either win or lose and thats not fun to watch. In a BO3, majority of the time, the better play will win.

Guess we'll see if they are using the edited maps like with depots at the bottom of the ramps and what not. No gold bases.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 16 2012 08:22 GMT
#257
On July 16 2012 16:53 red4ce wrote:
Bo1 is fine everyone. It's about time we shed the fear of SC2 games being short, cheesy and excessively volatile. That was true in 2010 but it's 2012 now. Imba early game strats have been nerfed, maps are enormous and the metagame has stabilized. If your favorite player is eliminated then it's because he was worse than his opponent, not because of the format.


Um it would be because of the format, a bo1 gives a player worse then you a might higher chance of victory. 1 cheese and if it works the "better player" loses so to speak. Makes cheese much deadlier/scarier because you know that if it works you lose the match and go to losers, there is no next map. Also there are some bad maps and some could favor one race hardcore, you get that map in a match up then again the better player may not advance.

In short I disagree with what you said. Either way hope DRG advances!
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
July 16 2012 08:26 GMT
#258
On July 16 2012 16:41 Talack wrote:
I don't understand why there wouldn't be an english broadcast.

Korea is freaking small, it's tiny and insignificant compared to the rest of the entire international SC2 scene, there are more viewers that tune in to watch events then there are people that live in korea. Why would they not take care of this free money from stream viewers? Do they want to goto sponsors and say "yeah we could get an additional 1-2 million more viewers added on for your products but we don't feel like it" or something?

Mind boggling, this may just be pre-lims but I hope they cater to the enormous foreign scene in addition to the korean scene.


OGN doesn't have the rights from Blizzard (yet) to do international broadcasts. They do indeed care about the foreign audience, have you seen their LoL tournament? If anything, Blizzard should learn a couple of things from Riot.

Anyways, Moletrap confirmed that there would be an english stream by the RO16.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
July 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#259
On July 16 2012 17:26 Kergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 16:41 Talack wrote:
I don't understand why there wouldn't be an english broadcast.

Korea is freaking small, it's tiny and insignificant compared to the rest of the entire international SC2 scene, there are more viewers that tune in to watch events then there are people that live in korea. Why would they not take care of this free money from stream viewers? Do they want to goto sponsors and say "yeah we could get an additional 1-2 million more viewers added on for your products but we don't feel like it" or something?

Mind boggling, this may just be pre-lims but I hope they cater to the enormous foreign scene in addition to the korean scene.


OGN doesn't have the rights from Blizzard (yet) to do international broadcasts. They do indeed care about the foreign audience, have you seen their LoL tournament? If anything, Blizzard should learn a couple of things from Riot.

Anyways, Moletrap confirmed that there would be an english stream by the RO16.


As long as Moletrap stays away from the english stream, it should be fine.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
July 16 2012 08:34 GMT
#260
So Blizzard wants the world to come together to play SC2, but then puts broadcasting restrictions on OGN? That just seems crazy, do we know that is a fact?

I feel they are really missing the boat on opening OSL/Kespa to a whole new audience, and they arent doing good by their players who risk being shoved into irrelevance with all the great SC2 content around at the mo.

As someone said, they seem to be making all the mistakes GOM made when they started, and no English stream for this is definitely the icing on the cake.

Someone needs to tell OGN:
- Make your content availabe in HQ (youtube vods still terrible)
- Provide an english stream
- Hype your events!!

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