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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:28:53
June 12 2012 17:27 GMT
#241
I'm a huge fan of TSL, love these events. But am I the only one who doesn't feel that it's entirely legitimate anymore?

I see all these good players getting knocked out before round of 32 by complete unknowns. I would love to see new blood in the scene, but how do we know they're not hacking or cheating in some way? Sorry to bring it up but all of these upsets have that shadow hanging over them constantly and makes it way less fun for me.

Edit: I've also only started feeling this way since the Spades/Impa thing, before that I was blissfully ignorant.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
June 12 2012 17:28 GMT
#242
Why is there a korean in the eu/na qualifiers?
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 12 2012 17:29 GMT
#243
On June 13 2012 02:27 SCST wrote:
I'm a huge fan of TSL, love these events. But am I the only one who doesn't feel that it's entirely legitimate anymore?

I see all these good players getting knocked out before round of 32 by complete unknowns. I would love to see new blood in the scene, but how do we know they're not hacking or cheating in some way? Sorry to bring it up but all of these upsets have that shadow hanging over them constantly and makes it way less fun for me.


Rest assured that at least for the ones that are earning points in the ranking, TL will have a look at the replays to see if everything is legit.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
June 12 2012 17:29 GMT
#244
On June 13 2012 02:28 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Why is there a korean in the eu/na qualifiers?


You mean Golden? He lives in the US. Same with Real and Dragon, who live in EU.
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
June 12 2012 17:30 GMT
#245
On June 13 2012 02:22 Sphaero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 02:19 tree.hugger wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:16 torm3ntin wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:13 tree.hugger wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:12 StarVe wrote:
As usual, the RO32 looks nothing like anyone expected after seeing the signups.

TSL =D

It all averages out in the end though. That's why we have a bunch of these!


I think Ro64 bo3 would be better. At least most of the favorites got there. But i know there are probably 300 pages in the internal forums discussing this topic :D

Only upset I see at that stage was PBunny beating Nerchio though. Wouldn't have changed much.


Turuk over Socke is just as much of an upset. Although, Socke just came back from the US, so his condition could be not the best.


I would argue that IeZael > Strelok and giantt > CatZ are quite the upsets as well.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
June 12 2012 17:30 GMT
#246
On June 13 2012 02:28 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Why is there a korean in the eu/na qualifiers?


Daisy and Golden are living in Germany/USA so they are allowed to participate here.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 12 2012 17:30 GMT
#247
On June 13 2012 02:27 SCST wrote:
I'm a huge fan of TSL, love these events. But am I the only one who doesn't feel that it's entirely legitimate anymore?

I see all these good players getting knocked out before round of 32 by complete unknowns. I would love to see new blood in the scene, but how do we know they're not hacking or cheating in some way? Sorry to bring it up but all of these upsets have that shadow hanging over them constantly and makes it way less fun for me.

There are not an unusual amount of upsets for bo1's.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
June 12 2012 17:30 GMT
#248
OMG is dragon going to win SOO CLOSE
We Live to Die
phrenzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom478 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:33:02
June 12 2012 17:31 GMT
#249
On June 13 2012 02:27 SCST wrote:
I'm a huge fan of TSL, love these events. But am I the only one who doesn't feel that it's entirely legitimate anymore?

I see all these good players getting knocked out before round of 32 by complete unknowns. I would love to see new blood in the scene, but how do we know they're not hacking or cheating in some way? Sorry to bring it up but all of these upsets have that shadow hanging over them constantly and makes it way less fun for me.

Edit: I've also only started feeling this way since the Spades/Impa thing, before that I was blissfully ignorant.


That's what exposed hackers do to the scene. Make everyone suspicious.

To be honest, im not surprised so many unknowns are knocking out big players. There are a lot of very good players out there. But people should remain guarded over what happened recently.

edit:// wow pokebunny beat nerchio. Being a bit of a nerchio fan..... wp pokebunny
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:33:41
June 12 2012 17:32 GMT
#250
On June 13 2012 02:27 SCST wrote:
I'm a huge fan of TSL, love these events. But am I the only one who doesn't feel that it's entirely legitimate anymore?

I see all these good players getting knocked out before round of 32 by complete unknowns. I would love to see new blood in the scene, but how do we know they're not hacking or cheating in some way? Sorry to bring it up but all of these upsets have that shadow hanging over them constantly and makes it way less fun for me.

Edit: I've also only started feeling this way since the Spades/Impa thing, before that I was blissfully ignorant.


If this was a one time thing I would definitely agree. But winning several Bo1s in a row is a strength as well, and by no means will an undeserving player end up winning it all and taking the seed. Now, I can't remember the total of qualifiers they intend having, but the point system will reward players who are consistently able to beat this format.

edit: I somehow figuered your post was about Bo1s and not about cheating. Nevermind me.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
June 12 2012 17:34 GMT
#251
On June 13 2012 02:29 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 02:27 SCST wrote:
I'm a huge fan of TSL, love these events. But am I the only one who doesn't feel that it's entirely legitimate anymore?

I see all these good players getting knocked out before round of 32 by complete unknowns. I would love to see new blood in the scene, but how do we know they're not hacking or cheating in some way? Sorry to bring it up but all of these upsets have that shadow hanging over them constantly and makes it way less fun for me.


Rest assured that at least for the ones that are earning points in the ranking, TL will have a look at the replays to see if everything is legit.


That's good to know!


There are not an unusual amount of upsets for bo1's.


Yeah not worried about that so much as just the feeling of constantly questioning if it's legitimate


That's what exposed hackers do to the scene. Make everyone suspicious.

To be honest, im not surprised so many unknowns are knocking out big players. There are a lot of very good players out there. But people should remain guarded over what happened recently.


I hope Blizzard come's out with something in order to ease the communities fears
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:34:38
June 12 2012 17:34 GMT
#252
On June 13 2012 02:02 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 01:57 TheDougler wrote:
Oh noes it's gonna be Fenix vs Grubby in RO64

GL Grubby, though it'd be great to see Fenix doing well again as well.

Really don't know who to root for there actually.


Since it's in EU servers i think Fenix may have a hard time since there is 0 lag on the grubby side.


I haven't seen Fenix play in almost a year... but the way Grubby has been playing lately I think Fenix'll have a hard time even before the lag.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
June 12 2012 17:36 GMT
#253
Wow.. GG Dragon
We Live to Die
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#254
On June 13 2012 02:36 SayGen wrote:
Wow.. GG Dragon


That was a slug fest. Intense match!

KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#255
collecting my 11 qualifier points tt
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
June 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#256
On June 13 2012 02:28 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Why is there a korean in the eu/na qualifiers?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339212
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All EU/NA players may play in both the 5 NA qualifiers and 5 EU qualifiers (10 total tournaments).

To play in EU/NA tournaments, the player must:

Live in North America or Europe; OR
Be a citizen of a North American or European country; OR
Live in South America

To play in Korea, the player must:

Live in Korea; OR
Be a citizen of Korea

Players who qualify for both must elect whether they wish to participate in the 10 EU/NA tournaments or the 5 Korean tournaments. Those in China, Taiwan, and SEA may choose to play in either the EU/NA tournaments or in the Korean events. Players in South America will play on the EU/NA qualifiers.

Players will indicate which they are choosing simply by entering and playing an event on that server. Entering events on both point rankings will result in disqualification.

Examples, assuming these players wish to participate in TSL4:

EG.iNcontroL lives in the United States and is not a citizen of Korea, he can only choose to play in the 10 EU/NA qualifiers
IM.NesTea lives in Korea and is not a citizen of a NA or EU country, he can only choose to play in the 5 KR qualifiers
Liquid`Jinro lives in Korea and is a citizen of Sweden, he can elect to play in the 10 EU/NA qualifiers OR the 5 KR qualifiers
Empire.Violet lives in the United States and is a citizen of Korea, he can elect to play in the 10 EU/NA qualifiers OR the 5 KR qualifiers
GamaniaSen lives in Taiwan, he can choose to play in the 10 EU/NA qualifiers OR the 5 KR qualifiers
bropedo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States89 Posts
June 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#257
gogo dimaga!
Gogo Terran: MKP ByuN || Toss: Parting Rain || Zerg: Life HyuN
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 17:39:15
June 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#258
On June 13 2012 02:30 Wivyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 02:22 Sphaero wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:19 tree.hugger wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:16 torm3ntin wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:13 tree.hugger wrote:
On June 13 2012 02:12 StarVe wrote:
As usual, the RO32 looks nothing like anyone expected after seeing the signups.

TSL =D

It all averages out in the end though. That's why we have a bunch of these!


I think Ro64 bo3 would be better. At least most of the favorites got there. But i know there are probably 300 pages in the internal forums discussing this topic :D

Only upset I see at that stage was PBunny beating Nerchio though. Wouldn't have changed much.


Turuk over Socke is just as much of an upset. Although, Socke just came back from the US, so his condition could be not the best.


I would argue that IeZael > Strelok and giantt > CatZ are quite the upsets as well.

uThermal > HasuObs, mycerion > sLivko, arew > LiveZerg, lukje > Elfi, Nce > Naama

Probably more, but I'm a bit too lazy to look through every part of the bracket.

Ah, fuck, that wasn't RO64, disregard my post, I failed to comprehend the previous ones.

Still, those are upsets.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4736 Posts
June 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#259
ohh Mana already has beaten KawaiiRice GJ! GO GO Mana!
Pathetic Greta hater.
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
June 12 2012 17:38 GMT
#260
On June 13 2012 02:37 KawaiiRice wrote:
collecting my 11 qualifier points tt


gg wp, 11 points is a good start.
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