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On May 10 2012 18:50 jtixs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ
Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP
MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR
God I love this community. I'm pretty sure this isn't reflective of the whole community. Some people will complain about anyone who "cheeses" Others are very race orientated and will complain if their chosen race doesn't win. Your post is unfair
It's pretty damn accurate actually
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On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ
Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP
MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR
God I love this community.
He's already proven he is arguably the best player. He has 3 GSL championships, a WCG Championship all through macro games.
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After watching NaNiwa's loss to Mvp, PartinG said that Mvp would be welcome to try the same early game tactics against him. I'm not convinced by his confidence. Parting might be undefeated past 25 minutes, but he's shown weakness to early to mid-game timing-attacks. His force-fields and decision-making while defending early attacks aren't always the best, and he's even lost a few strange games to the much diminished 1/1/1 as of late. Mvp has never been a big user of 1/1/1 style all-ins in tournaments, preferring two-base timings including siege tanks. However, that's exactly the kind of mind-game Mvp would look to exploit against PartinG, and the timing attacks he uses against PartinG will be ones we (and PartinG) are unlikely to expect.
Don't know whether it was Fionn or Wax who wrote this... but... so true so far
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On May 10 2012 18:51 DaRKMaTT3r wrote:
Wow the number of people who voted 5 stars for that last game. Vote with your brain not your heart please! Some people use it to check the real good games later. =(
Well don't you just love expecting a great game and then getting terran building some shit and winning?
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On May 10 2012 18:42 ThaSlayer wrote:The first game was hardly an all in.
Pulling 15+ scvs is not an allin? There's no transition after losing that many scvs
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On May 10 2012 18:51 fixed_point wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:50 rauk wrote:On May 10 2012 18:47 TheSwamp wrote:On May 10 2012 18:43 rysecake wrote:
haha @ these people complaining about cheese. Sure lets let protoss afk macro for 30 minutes. Get templars, colos, archons, void rays, mothership, carriers, phoenixes. Hell just give them 3/3 everything to a move. That's obviously what MVP should do. There's no honor in winning before the 15 min mark. And he cheesed Naniwa (who everyone seems to like this month). honor doesn't win you a championship Or 3
lol @ honor, fucking internet samurais 
btw guys, you're watching a "strategy" game, not a "no rush 20 minutes" game
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On May 10 2012 18:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
so many tryhards in this thread trying to explain why mvp is a cheesey faggot or why mvp is the smartest fucking terran ever
i suspect his reasons are mostly trollish
I suspect his reasons are ALL about doing his best to win. What a shock.
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On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ
Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP
MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR
God I love this community.
This is exactly how it is. If the community likes you, you could go BitByBit every game and they'll still think you're good. Imagine the reaction if someone like Naniwa started Proxy gating or 4 gating 2/3 of his games.
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On May 10 2012 18:47 See.Blue wrote:
Dude this is great. MVP is really poking holes in the PvT metagame. Love it
The holes were always there. But crying when win% is not 60% anymore is easier.
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On May 10 2012 18:51 Diogenes wrote:
Tasteless is really fanning the flames by saying MVP is cheesing. It shows his bias as a protoss player. In G1, MVP did a perfect timing before Parting had psi storm (it was halfway done). Yes, he pulled scv's, but not enough to be necessarily an all-in. It was the perfect counter to Parting's 2 collossus/psi storm play. G1 was NOT a cheese and could have been stopped with more aggressive play/units from Parting. Parting got collossus and then was rushing to psi storm off two bases. It was greedy and MVP punished it with the perfect timing.
In G2, MVP 1-1-1'ed but Parting made a lot of mistakes by not scouting it (he had plenty of opportunities). Parting also made a mistake by not breaking the rocks and opening a flanking route as Artosis pointed out. Blizzard already patched this game many times to stop 1-1-1 from being OP against toss. If Parting had had better scouting/decision-making, he could've stopped MVP.
People need top stop pulling an Idra and whining about cheese.
Totally agree with you, especially the Tasteless part.
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On May 10 2012 18:50 GreyKnight wrote:
1-1-1 is still dangerous and viable especially on Ohana.
It's not viable, it's viable too much.
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Oh man, he just needs one more game.
GO GO MVP!
TERRAN FOR LIFE!
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On May 10 2012 18:48 namste wrote:
Loving these comments "I used to be a huge fan on Mvp but now I have no respect". Should he just forfeit the games for you to be happy? :D
He is playing this so freaking smart. Parting is a beast in lategame, TvP lategame favors P so hard anyway currently. I'm actually so happy that these whiners aren't fans of his, the smartest player in SC2 deserves smart fans.
And as Artosis has been saying: Protoss have been so greedy lately with shit they shouldn't get away with.
I mean Killer vs ForGG yesterday, ForGG turned up with a small 20 supply bio force and Killer had 2 zealots, a stalker and a sentry. It's an exaggeration because Killer really did fail, but a lot of Protoss have been skimping on early defence to get to their 3 base max as fast as possible.
Terran, in the current metagame, need to at the very least keep the protoss player honest. It's something a lot of pros haven't been doing and so MVP is just taking the extreme. Almost feels like protoss players forgot non-macro games exist in TvP.
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On May 10 2012 18:47 ninjakingcola wrote:
I honestly don't care that he's won 3 GSL titles, these games are trash and I'm going to bed, it wasn't worth it to stay up to watch games like this. Damn Terran cheese.
You talk as if PartinG didn't make mistakes and the "cheese" was an autowin.
First map he got greedy, moved out, and got smacked out of position.
Second map he should have broken the rocks knowing what was coming.
And to take away from MVPs push there on Ohana is absurd. That was SOLID. Parting didn't stand a chance without those rocks broken or at least an outside pylon.
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That game wasn't really all due to MVPs build. It was also due to Partings faults. If I'm not
Mistaken he only had 4 gates? Did he have more? And his stargate was way late. I'm actually at the studio here watching it live and everyone is saying parting could've held that but he didn't destroy the back door rocks and built an unnecessary observer. If he had more than 4 gates in sure he might been able to push it.
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On May 10 2012 18:51 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:47 Femari wrote:On May 10 2012 18:45 Belha wrote:On May 10 2012 18:43 Zorgaz wrote:On May 10 2012 18:42 LeLfe wrote:On May 10 2012 18:41 r4pture wrote:
When did MVP become such a cheesy player? at the very moment Blizzard decided he shall not play late game vP He wants to win... Blizzard themselves said Terran needs to kill P in Early/Mid game I would love to see T late game buffed. BUT early/mid PvT should be rebalanced too. I don't read any terran complaining about that... The whole matchup needs to be rebalanced. Take away our early game advantages and make it more equal, buff Terran lategame to make it equal there. That's what I want So you want terran and protoss to be equal at all points in the game? Why don't we just get rid of two races so we don't have to ever again worry about balance.
So you want it to become impossible for races to kill each other in a certain part of the game?
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THIS IS IT MVP! BRING HOME HIS HEAD AND ADD IT TO YOUR TROPHY CASE!
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Clearly Fionn is stuck in lower leaues. In GM/High masters, the meta game is what MVP is countering. Protoss is gready and they hold off the usuall non-all-in agression. MVP just goes all-in and counters that gready economic play topped off with fast tech.
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It's disappointing to watch but I can't blame MVP for doing it. Late game TvP is tough for the terrans and Parting is a complete monster at it anyway.
If only he'd knocked down those rocks and flanked MVPs army he could have taken that game 
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I sense 3 Rax proxy incoming!!
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