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jtixs
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom150 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1141
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.


I'm pretty sure this isn't reflective of the whole community.

Some people will complain about anyone who "cheeses"

Others are very race orientated and will complain if their chosen race doesn't win.

Your post is unfair
Misconceptions to Mastery
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1142
I like that MVP mixed up the cheese style from his Naniwa games. I mean, terran are stronger early game, and MVP is good enough to push that edge hard. I think MVP just got lucky with partings move out on game 1, but that second game was crazy skillful.

I really want Parting to win, but man, I won't be surprised at all if he can't come back, MVP is sick good.
In the clearing stands a boxer and a figher by his trade
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1143
On May 10 2012 18:47 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:43 rysecake wrote:
haha @ these people complaining about cheese. Sure lets let protoss afk macro for 30 minutes. Get templars, colos, archons, void rays, mothership, carriers, phoenixes. Hell just give them 3/3 everything to a move.


That's obviously what MVP should do. There's no honor in winning before the 15 min mark. And he cheesed Naniwa (who everyone seems to like this month).


honor doesn't win you a championship
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1144
Its gotten to the point where Protoss are whining if they arent allowed to get a colosus at 7th minute. Nobody wants to play vs P late game, so you should expect aggression.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1145
On May 10 2012 18:47 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:45 Belha wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:43 Zorgaz wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:42 LeLfe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:41 r4pture wrote:
When did MVP become such a cheesy player?


at the very moment Blizzard decided he shall not play late game vP



He wants to win...

Blizzard themselves said Terran needs to kill P in Early/Mid game


I would love to see T late game buffed. BUT early/mid PvT should be rebalanced too.
I don't read any terran complaining about that...

The whole matchup needs to be rebalanced. Take away our early game advantages and make it more equal, buff Terran lategame to make it equal there.

That's what I want


So you want terran and protoss to be equal at all points in the game? Why don't we just get rid of two races so we don't have to ever again worry about balance.
Caltu
Profile Joined May 2011
60 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1146
Finally this much needed transition in the meta game is hapening!

Ive had enough of maps like Calm Before The Storm that gives players that chance to move towards a faster macro game rather than these exciting pushes. You learn more about the actual game seeing how meta gaming works well.

Glad MVP is taking a massive swing at the current meta game like this, maybe we will see less of that fast macro modes and back to good old days of timing attacks
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1147
On May 10 2012 18:50 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:47 TheSwamp wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:43 rysecake wrote:
haha @ these people complaining about cheese. Sure lets let protoss afk macro for 30 minutes. Get templars, colos, archons, void rays, mothership, carriers, phoenixes. Hell just give them 3/3 everything to a move.


That's obviously what MVP should do. There's no honor in winning before the 15 min mark. And he cheesed Naniwa (who everyone seems to like this month).


honor doesn't win you a championship

Or 3
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1148
Wow the number of people who voted 5 stars for that last game. Vote with your brain not your heart please! Some people use it to check the real good games later. =(
Diogenes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States132 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1149
Tasteless is really fanning the flames by saying MVP is cheesing. It shows his bias as a protoss player. In G1, MVP did a perfect timing before Parting had psi storm (it was halfway done). Yes, he pulled scv's, but not enough to be necessarily an all-in. It was the perfect counter to Parting's 2 collossus/psi storm play. G1 was NOT a cheese and could have been stopped with more aggressive play/units from Parting. Parting got collossus and then was rushing to psi storm off two bases. It was greedy and MVP punished it with the perfect timing.

In G2, MVP 1-1-1'ed but Parting made a lot of mistakes by not scouting it (he had plenty of opportunities). Parting also made a mistake by not breaking the rocks and opening a flanking route as Artosis pointed out. Blizzard already patched this game many times to stop 1-1-1 from being OP against toss. If Parting had had better scouting/decision-making, he could've stopped MVP.

People need top stop pulling an Idra and whining about cheese.
"When Godzilla attacks, he advances rather than retreats. We can use this to our advantage."
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1150
On May 10 2012 18:47 ypslala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:44 elwoodng wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:41 frostalgia wrote:
everyone likes MVP so much.. all he does is cheese and all-in. this is not esports..

I'm a Protoss player as well but MVP does not need to prove himself to anyone. He won his 3 GSLs, WCG, Blizzcon etc. through macro games.

i dont like mvp at all

Well I'm sure he's losing sleep over you.
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1151
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.

So...fucking.....true....x.x
Liquid hero <3////Brotoss Protoss!
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1152
I think this may be the shortest GSL semi finals. And all thanks to MVP.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1153
Money > Honor.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1154
On May 10 2012 18:50 Fionn wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
you know, I would say PartinG could come back 3 - 0 (he's good enough), but it's entirely possible Mvp has devoured his soul


MVP is gonna all-in three more times, and Parting is going to do some sort of safe opening in the next three games and die.

WHY DID U DO THIS?
i dont want pvp T_T
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1155
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.


You don't think much do you ?

-Maybe consider MVP 3x GSL champion, nearly all on macro games alone. (history)

-Maybe know the current meta game ? It's difficult to win vs Toss late game so why would you risk that ? To please whiners like you ?

- Look at his injury (he's kicking parting's ass while having wrist problems)
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1156
I think people are just frustrated (me included) to finally see a potential new protoss champion being kicked in the face by 1/1/1. Losing to 1/1/1 makes people facepalm hard.
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 09:53:00
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1157
So funny with all these MVP fanboys that keep justifying MVP's continuous cheese. Probably the same hypocrits that whines when protosses all-in.
Sure, play to win, and he has a bad wrist, but come on. Show some honor.

Anyways, Parting responded poorly both games.
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1158
These games is only partying fucking up Like artosis said, if those rocks where taken down, he could flanked the tanks in open area, spreading out alot more to avoid all that tank dmg.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1159
lol why are you people complaining about MVP's strats? If anything, it shows versatility and preparation as MVP's exploiting the holes in Partings early/mid game play. As far a I'm concerned, you play to win not play to get positive feedback in the community. Because at the end of the day, It's the tournament money that pays while everybody's opinion remains worthless.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#1160
Hopefully parting can respond to these timing attacks and play his natural game. I don't really care that MVP is doing stuff that's to his advantage - good on him for trying to win in the manner his experience dictates is the best! It's more I want to see out of Parting, not MVP.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
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