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Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
May 10 2012 09:49 GMT
#1121
I feel that if any player has earned the right to be cheesy, it's MVP. And given what Blizz has stated recently on balance, I can't say I blame him.
straight poppin
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
May 10 2012 09:49 GMT
#1122
When Blizzard even admits toss has an advantage late game, these are the types of games you are going to see...

don't blame MVP for using his head.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 10 2012 09:49 GMT
#1123
On May 10 2012 18:48 KiNGxXx wrote:
It's not MVP's fault Parting is playing so bad!

The only problem is people will say "TvP is fine. A terran was in the finals last GSL".


Those same people would have said TvP was imba if it was a PvP finals. I wouldn't really be concerned about people who think the GSL is the end all of balance.
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
May 10 2012 09:49 GMT
#1124
On May 10 2012 18:47 soulist wrote:
For the people that say Mvp is playing cheesy. That's what he has to do. Terran does not have an answer for Protoss late game, so they must win early to mid-game. Mvp is the smartest player in the world and he has been showing it.


I agree.

Protoss complain that we need to adapt to the current TvP meta-game.

Then MvP shows how to play TvP and Protoss whines again.

Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1125
On May 10 2012 18:44 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:42 HolyArrow wrote:
It's funny seeing some Terrans complain that 1-1-1 isn't viable anymore. It's still quite potent.

I think you didn't notice how MVP hit an earlier timing and played an almost flawless game, that's not the standard hurr durr 1-1-1, this looked extremely hard to execute.


MVP had perfect positioning and decision making, he did abuse the map and Parting didn't break the rocks to flank.
Also MVP did micro his banshees on one side of the engagement while focus firing with his tanks and microing back his marines.
That is incredibly hard to pull off and also Parting did fail on his defense.

Well, 1-1-1 is still a viable strategy, you just need to be executing it better then your opponent is executing his defense.

At the prime time of 1-1-1 an inferior player could win with it against a superior protoss, now it's back to the better player wins.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1126
On May 10 2012 18:47 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:45 Belha wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:43 Zorgaz wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:42 LeLfe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:41 r4pture wrote:
When did MVP become such a cheesy player?


at the very moment Blizzard decided he shall not play late game vP



He wants to win...

Blizzard themselves said Terran needs to kill P in Early/Mid game


I would love to see T late game buffed. BUT early/mid PvT should be rebalanced too.
I don't read any terran complaining about that...

The whole matchup needs to be rebalanced. Take away our early game advantages and make it more equal, buff Terran lategame to make it equal there.

That's what I want


Agreed. Nerf 1-1-1 and and early marauder pushes and buff terran late game. That would probably mess up TvZ though.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1127
On May 10 2012 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
you know, I would say PartinG could come back 3 - 0 (he's good enough), but it's entirely possible Mvp has devoured his soul

It's been over since MVP pulled his SCVS in game. Parting really loses steam in high pressure situations like this =/
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1128
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.


We're all human beings, man.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3484 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1129
I feel like the fact that MVP knew from when he was set up vs Naniwa, he would only meet protoss, plays such a huge factor in this.
Third game, he's gonna macro cheese, me thinks.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia317 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1130
CMON Parting kill this alliner!
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1131
On May 10 2012 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
you know, I would say PartinG could come back 3 - 0 (he's good enough), but it's entirely possible Mvp has devoured his soul

Mvp devours every soul that doesn't belong to MMA
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1132
Parting going full tilt in the booth. MVP 3-0.
abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1133
On May 10 2012 18:49 below66 wrote:
[image loading]
State of TL P's right now.

Why is there a feather ?
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1134
On May 10 2012 18:47 vorxaw wrote:
Isnt MVP just following the strat published by blizzard lol? Terrans please win before 20mins

I like this way of thinking.

No seriously Mvp KNOWS he cannot win against TRIPLE (for those who cannot count, it's HT, Colossi and Archons) AOE Protoss. + 3/3 chargelots WRECK you. Until they give hellions spider mines, I doubt Mvp will even bother playing longer than 20 minutes.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1135
My god, if MVP end up stealing this GSL from a Protoss, i'm gonna laugh so hard.
Like, soooo hard.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1136
Parting looks like his soul has been crushed in the booth.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1137
1-1-1 is still dangerous and viable especially on Ohana.
Liquid`Bunny
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark145 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1138
Mvp is playing really smart, though i would have liked to see more macro games = /. Remember the days where Mvp said "Any terran doing 1-1-1 should be banned from GSL"? :D
Team Liquid
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1139
On May 10 2012 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
you know, I would say PartinG could come back 3 - 0 (he's good enough), but it's entirely possible Mvp has devoured his soul


MVP is gonna all-in three more times, and Parting is going to do some sort of safe opening in the next three games and die.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
May 10 2012 09:50 GMT
#1140
On May 10 2012 18:48 Lunchador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:46 bittman wrote:
I'm so sick of the fact that our audience appears to dislike a high tension all-in game over long single-a-move battle macro games.

I mean, a close macro game is the best, don't get me wrong. But it seems TL will give a good rating to a long game with 1 battle than a short game with a close battle. Are minerals being mined that exciting? =/


Exactly. I was holding my breath for both players on the push. I thought it was a rather exciting and good match.


I was practically shaking watching the interaction between banshee, bunker, etc with parting's stalkers and immortal control. It was quite tense

but we can see mvp just has better awareness and control. parting lost a few stalker and zealots to hold command without doing anything
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