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Gantritor
Profile Joined January 2011
Italy112 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1201
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1202
Naniwa actually looks good now after this games with Parting =)).
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1203
marine scv all in

please, do it

mvp is the KING
lamehater
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden100 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1204
Come on now, dammit. MVP is doing what he needs to win. If he thinks he can take it by sitting back, doing nothing while just waiting for Parting to max out then sure, that's fine as well. Right now it seems as if he's abusing Parting's play, nothing wrong with that.
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1205
On May 10 2012 18:51 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:50 rauk wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:47 TheSwamp wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:43 rysecake wrote:
haha @ these people complaining about cheese. Sure lets let protoss afk macro for 30 minutes. Get templars, colos, archons, void rays, mothership, carriers, phoenixes. Hell just give them 3/3 everything to a move.


That's obviously what MVP should do. There's no honor in winning before the 15 min mark. And he cheesed Naniwa (who everyone seems to like this month).


honor doesn't win you a championship

Or 3


or... 4 :D
and my axe
ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1206
On May 10 2012 18:49 Rokoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:47 soulist wrote:
For the people that say Mvp is playing cheesy. That's what he has to do. Terran does not have an answer for Protoss late game, so they must win early to mid-game. Mvp is the smartest player in the world and he has been showing it.


I agree.

Protoss complain that we need to adapt to the current TvP meta-game.

Then MvP shows how to play TvP and Protoss whines again.


and toss dosn't have an answer for terran early midgame. so who has the advantage?
best SC2 game of aaaaaaall time: vibe vs avilo (don't miss the end!!): https://youtu.be/mygH92WzKV4
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1207
MVP is gonna throw in 2 more cheeses before a normal game even comes into play...

However, this is something that Parting should expect after looking at the naniwa games...
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1208
PartinG looks broken right now.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1209
Games are not worthy of semi-final.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1210
I hope Parting can muster the greatest comeback of all time, because this is complete garbage right now. I bet he's going to 3 rax this next game.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1211
Hmm these LR threads have been better some time ago, now it's only whining.

Guess we need a game with only 1 Race.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1212
On May 10 2012 18:47 Netsky wrote:
All those complaining about MVP do not understand the TvP match up.

A Terran playing a standard macro game against Protoss with even remotely close skill level will lose 100% of the time. MVP knows this and he is doing what he can. Blame Blizzard a completely imbalanced race and match up.


This is spot on.

It describes the situation very well.
All the gimmicky things in the protoss race break basic fundamental principles in a RTS-game.

Warp-tech -> no defenders advantage
Blink , Cliff walk , pylon warp-in -> less or no high ground advantage
warp-tech -> insta remax in maxed out engagements right into the battle so you can't push your advantage so much even if you win the battle

So MVP is doing the right thing.

1. Practice Cheese.

2. Use Cheese in GSL

3. Profit.

(4. Blizzard nerfing terran while not doing anything about protoss design issues)

(5.Every terran on earth facepalming)


User was temp banned for this post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1213
On May 10 2012 18:47 vorxaw wrote:
Isnt MVP just following the strat published by blizzard lol? Terrans please win before 20mins


On May 10 2012 18:47 Netsky wrote:
All those complaining about MVP do not understand the TvP match up.

A Terran playing a standard macro game against Protoss with even remotely close skill level will lose 100% of the time. MVP knows this and he is doing what he can. Blame Blizzard a completely imbalanced race and match up.


I just love it when people don't actually read the full context of the Blizzard article as well as some balance whining.

And also, for those complaining about the all-in from MVP last game - it was very well executed by MVP. Parting also had the chance to hold it but he did some unit movement mistakes.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1214
On May 10 2012 18:51 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:47 Femari wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Belha wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:43 Zorgaz wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:42 LeLfe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:41 r4pture wrote:
When did MVP become such a cheesy player?


at the very moment Blizzard decided he shall not play late game vP



He wants to win...

Blizzard themselves said Terran needs to kill P in Early/Mid game


I would love to see T late game buffed. BUT early/mid PvT should be rebalanced too.
I don't read any terran complaining about that...

The whole matchup needs to be rebalanced. Take away our early game advantages and make it more equal, buff Terran lategame to make it equal there.

That's what I want


So you want terran and protoss to be equal at all points in the game? Why don't we just get rid of two races so we don't have to ever again worry about balance.


No, i want Warcraft 1 back. Where there are no more diffrences between the races. That was fun, right?
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6102 Posts
May 10 2012 09:53 GMT
#1215
Where can i get the GOM playlist?
#1 Terran hater
bkp
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:16:58
May 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#1216
Too many bronze level terrans here , he play 111 and u act like he make something amazing , that strategy should be nerfed by blizz like half year ago .
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
May 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#1217
Mvp! 1 more! Cheese! Or so what they called it! But We believe that it is just taking advantage. gogogo!
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
May 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#1218
On May 10 2012 18:51 Dauntless wrote:
So funny with all these MVP fanboys that keep justifying MVP's continuous cheese. Probably the same hypocrits thatwhines when protosses all-in.
Sure, play to win, and he has a bad wrist, but come on. Show some honor.

Anyways, Parting responded poorly both games.


Ya when playing for 50 grand make sure to play long games so your wrists are sore when you have CTS and play late game TvP where Protoss has an advantage.

Why not handicap MVP more? Maybe he should play with one hand, honor you know? So he doesn't own up too hard.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 09:55:07
May 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#1219
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.


There's a reason for that, you know.

MC's play over the last 2 years has consistently been about trying to discover new timings and then exploit them until people adapt to be able to defend them, then rinse and repeat. He's literally the ForGG of Starcraft 2.

MVP's play IS reactive to the current metagame and actual Protoss timings, but it is not his trademark playstyle in any way, hence he doesn't have that kind of a reputation.

I get it that you try to make it all about the races, but the majority of TL ain't Terran. I myself am a Protoss player, and I've cringed at MC's play since he first started getting results. -_-
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 10 2012 09:54 GMT
#1220
How dare MVP not play by our made up rules!
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
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