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[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 1 - Page 176
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Oh god don't remind me, the greatest choke in GSL history... | ||
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aznball123
2759 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:50 Funkatron wrote: when are the ro4 matches? May 10th | ||
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babybell
776 Posts
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CursivE
Australia317 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:50 Eee wrote: Seriously? if anyone gets crap for 2-base timings its MC LOL. T_T Fixed it for you. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:49 trinxified wrote: Those two immortals zoned out was more of a BM move than a sick strategy lol... It wasn't needed at all. He could've just left them in his base for extra safety. Disagree. It was more of a spur of the moment move as his Immortals were already in that area. And it also allowed him to keep track of where the Stalkers were and put him in the initiative so that Oz couldn't do as he pleased (blink on top of immortals, preventing them from microing). By zoning them out there, he gave the immortals space to micro and did a lot more than just leaving them at base. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Hahahahaha, made my day kind sir. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17720 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:47 Zzoram wrote: How can people say cheesy games don't show who the better player is? Why do you all buy into Idra's losing mentality that only long macro games count as real games? Being able to defend rushes is a skill too, one that foreigners typically sorely lack since they have some mental block where they refuse to cheese each other and as a result never get practice against it. it's also stupid too cause without early aggression players would just get 4 nexuses first and macro up to 200/200 and get a deathball... the only reason we get any dynamic games is because of aggression, you attack when your opponent is weakest | ||
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Doomwish
438 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:50 m0ck wrote: Cheese is coin-flipping. Hard-counter some builds, auto-lose against others. It's legitimate in that it wins games, but it doesn't tell you who the better player is. Crisis management is a huge part of being a good player. Naniwa has a greedy play style and got punished for it as he has many times in the past..gateway on 15? thats just needless risk , he cuts too many corners in his builds to try get ahead. | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
plz bomber don't rub off on parting  | ||
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
I love creativity, but it's like he goes into it with confidence but just doesnt work against top PvP's. Is it a practise partner problem? | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:31 dpurple wrote: Cheese relies on not being scouted. I see this win far too much while being scouted very early, apparently the build works fine even if it gets scouted. Its an all in not a cheese imo. Pretty sure most top-level protoss would have held that easily after scouting. Naniwa just got flustered and muffed it. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:51 iky43210 wrote: I don't know why people like artosis and LR constantly counts out MVP. He's still the most accomplished sc2 player to date, and have been in code S for a very long time. Even last season he was only 1 game away from making into round of 8. And a season before that in round of 4 He probably been in round of 4 or higher more than he has not Because we have eyes, and this is not the MVP we were used to. Call it carpal tunnel, call it PvT era or w/e. Everything not a 3-0 or 3-1 for parting will be a big surprise for me. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:52 pdd wrote: Disagree. It was more of a spur of the moment move as his Immortals were already in that area. And it also allowed him to keep track of where the Stalkers were and put him in the initiative so that Oz couldn't do as he pleased (blink on top of immortals, preventing them from microing). By zoning them out there, he gave the immortals space to micro and did a lot more than just leaving them at base. Actually leaving the immortals at base was the "best" decision as it slows down any possibility of a base trade. | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
proving my point, still bitter from Finland stomping Sweden last year? :D | ||
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regizer239
Guam327 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:51 Dwelf wrote: this song is so gud, wanna know the title very badly! Here I Am by Michael Thompson Band, according to Shazam | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
I dont think MC gets that much hate for them though? Like i see people posting on a daily basis "Naniwa doesn't know how to play macro games, he just goes for 2-base all in bla bla". MC has a lot more respect in the community. w/e man, It's just sad that he gets that much hate. "/ | ||
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:47 Zzoram wrote: How can people say cheesy games don't show who the better player is? Why do you all buy into Idra's losing mentality that only long macro games count as real games? Being able to defend rushes is a skill too, one that foreigners typically sorely lack since they have some mental block where they refuse to cheese each other and as a result never get practice against it. if you can stop a cheese, you either win or the game moves on to the macro phase - and stopping cheese is generally easier to learn than "learn how to play a solid macro game", therefore cheese almost always is a risky and desperate move taken by a lesser player. on the other hand, if you are better at playing macro games, this is, as i mentioned very hard for the opponent in a easy way "counter" or practice against. by perfecting a cheese you get a small weapon that works a few times, but by getting good macro you could argue that you are the better player. | ||
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Hamdemon
United States348 Posts
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