EPT[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 1 - Page 178
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fanvadmeck
Sweden112 Posts
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Theovide
Sweden914 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:54 eYeball wrote: I just tuned in, can someone recap Naniwa vs MVP series and the two last games of PvP? Only need brief information about the first series, curious though what BO PartinG and Oz went for in both games! :D MVP did two marine scv allins (one 2 rax proxy one 3 rax with 2 semi proxy), two 2 base timing pushes with tank and mm. Naniwa held one of the 2 base timings, lost to the 3 other builds. Parting is crushing Oz face, Oz went for some kind of forge and expand build in game 1 and just died, then 4 gate blink allin vs immortals and just died. | ||
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:54 masterchip27 wrote: I agree... just wish the games were entertaining and both players played well really? you thought naniwa played well? i think it was clear he had some serious nerve issues and probably got a little tilted by the marine-scv-all in och entombed valley | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:56 MCXD wrote: Because he never had to use blind cheese almost 3 games in a row to do it before? "blind" cheese against someone who is known for going constantly forge expand 4 times in a row against zerg despite losing to 6 pool 3 times in the same game set? Naniwa is not known for being flexible with his build. why would you not exploit that MVP is probably the best sc2 player out there that use specific build against players and play mind games | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:56 masterchip27 wrote: mvp wins game 1, brings a lot of scvs with 2-base timing mvp wins game 2, brings all scvs with marines naniwa wins game 3, blink obs mvp wins game 3, brings scv's with proxy 2 rax oz goes nexus first, parting wins with blink oz 4gates with blink, parting has 2 immortals to defend, kills oz Okey, thank you very much!  | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
In the bottom left is  OzIn the top right is Parting | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
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Fanta_Rules
Sweden669 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:53 zezamer wrote: proving my point, still bitter from Finland stomping Sweden last year? :D I had actually forgotten about that. Guess playing against Finland in the world cup isn't such a big deal to me, since we almost always win. Actually, now that I think about it, I use to feel sorry for you and even rooted for you that time. You needed that win! | ||
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
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masterchip27
United States284 Posts
youll be able to find the game recaps for more details  in the LR thread | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:58 Drazerk wrote: Game three on daybreak In the bottom left is OzIn the top right is Parting3:00 Second gas for both players along with their cyber cores Parting moving out to scout | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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Ktk
Korea (South)753 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:53 Soma.bokforlag wrote: if you can stop a cheese, you either win or the game moves on to the macro phase - and stopping cheese is generally easier to learn than "learn how to play a solid macro game", therefore cheese almost always is a risky and desperate move taken by a lesser player. on the other hand, if you are better at playing macro games, this is, as i mentioned very hard for the opponent in a easy way "counter" or practice against. by perfecting a cheese you get a small weapon that works a few times, but by getting good macro you could argue that you are the better player. So... Almost all protosses are suddenly better than every terran player now? I can't currently think of a protoss with a losing ratio post 25 minutes from these GSL stats bars. Oz is the lowest by far I've seen at 67% (which is probably 2/3). It's equally important to not die in the first 12 minutes of the game than to go on macro cruise control >25mins in. ::Calling 3-0, suspicious play from oz | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:57 iky43210 wrote: "blind" cheese against someone who is known for going constantly forge expand 4 times in a row against zerg despite getting 6 pooled 3 times in the same game set? Naniwa is not known for being flexible with his build. why would you not exploit that Well Naniwa is totally retarded for not changing it up then. But it's not like MVP is a genius and displaying superb skill by doing it that way. | ||
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DropTester
Australia608 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:49 trinxified wrote: Those two immortals zoned out was more of a BM move than a sick strategy lol... It wasn't needed at all. He could've just left them in his base for extra safety. I think if the immortals were in the base then oz could have combined his army and took out parting's army in the middle of the map. | ||
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Halvhir
United States23 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:50 Akhee wrote: he robo bays cancel 2 times, then zones stalkers as hes pushing, you seriously didnt see it? Well yes, that's part of the decision making but worthy of noting. xD Not saying it isn't impressive! Just not feeling 'brilliant' is justified, more about Oz making some poor choices and PartinG capitalizing. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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