• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:25
CEST 17:25
KST 00:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2?
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5705 users

[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 1 - Page 178

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 204 Next
fanvadmeck
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden112 Posts
May 02 2012 10:57 GMT
#3541
Would love to see a cannonrush on Daybreak, so bad designed for PvP.
| Startale | Quantic | Liquid FTW!
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
May 02 2012 10:57 GMT
#3542
On May 02 2012 19:54 eYeball wrote:
I just tuned in, can someone recap Naniwa vs MVP series and the two last games of PvP? Only need brief information about the first series, curious though what BO PartinG and Oz went for in both games! :D

MVP did two marine scv allins (one 2 rax proxy one 3 rax with 2 semi proxy), two 2 base timing pushes with tank and mm. Naniwa held one of the 2 base timings, lost to the 3 other builds.

Parting is crushing Oz face, Oz went for some kind of forge and expand build in game 1 and just died, then 4 gate blink allin vs immortals and just died.
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
May 02 2012 10:57 GMT
#3543
On May 02 2012 19:54 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:47 Zzoram wrote:
How can people say cheesy games don't show who the better player is? Why do you all buy into Idra's losing mentality that only long macro games count as real games?

Being able to defend rushes is a skill too, one that foreigners typically sorely lack since they have some mental block where they refuse to cheese each other and as a result never get practice against it.


I agree... just wish the games were entertaining and both players played well


really? you thought naniwa played well? i think it was clear he had some serious nerve issues and probably got a little tilted by the marine-scv-all in och entombed valley
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:59:35
May 02 2012 10:57 GMT
#3544
On May 02 2012 19:56 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:55 iky43210 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:53 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:51 iky43210 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:45 SolidZeal wrote:
Well, justice will be served, MVP vs PartinG... roflstomp

Still kinda hope that Oz can come back to make a few epic PvP's.

Oh and I'm calling it right now, PartinG vs HerO in the finals.


I don't know why people like artosis and LR constantly counts out MVP. He's still the most accomplished sc2 player to date, and have been in code S for a very long time.

Even last season he was only 1 game away from making into round of 8. And a season before that in round of 4

He probably been in round of 4 or higher more than he has not


Because we have eyes, and this is not the MVP we were used to. Call it carpal tunnel, call it PvT era or w/e. Everything not a 3-0 or 3-1 for parting will be a big surprise for me.


Using your eyes is deceptive, especially there aren't that many games you can see per season. How do you count someone out who has constantly been able to get into the round of 4 or higher nearly every season?


Because he never had to use blind cheese almost 3 games in a row to do it before?


"blind" cheese against someone who is known for going constantly forge expand 4 times in a row against zerg despite losing to 6 pool 3 times in the same game set?

Naniwa is not known for being flexible with his build. why would you not exploit that

MVP is probably the best sc2 player out there that use specific build against players and play mind games
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3545
On May 02 2012 19:56 masterchip27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:54 eYeball wrote:
I just tuned in, can someone recap Naniwa vs MVP series and the two last games of PvP? Only need brief information about the first series, curious though what BO PartinG and Oz went for in both games! :D


mvp wins game 1, brings a lot of scvs with 2-base timing
mvp wins game 2, brings all scvs with marines
naniwa wins game 3, blink obs
mvp wins game 3, brings scv's with proxy 2 rax

oz goes nexus first, parting wins with blink
oz 4gates with blink, parting has 2 immortals to defend, kills oz


Okey, thank you very much!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3546
Game three on daybreak

In the bottom left is Oz

In the top right is Parting
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3547
Actually, thats a pretty good reason Artosis.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3548
On May 02 2012 19:53 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:50 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:47 zezamer wrote:
Swedes are so bad losers

Yeah, like Finns in hockey.


proving my point, still bitter from Finland stomping Sweden last year? :D

I had actually forgotten about that. Guess playing against Finland in the world cup isn't such a big deal to me, since we almost always win. Actually, now that I think about it, I use to feel sorry for you and even rooted for you that time. You needed that win!
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3549
Did Tasteless just say he was going to eat our children?
I have no quote!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3550
Artosis digging deep looking for explanations? haha
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:58:56
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3551
On May 02 2012 19:58 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:56 masterchip27 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:54 eYeball wrote:
I just tuned in, can someone recap Naniwa vs MVP series and the two last games of PvP? Only need brief information about the first series, curious though what BO PartinG and Oz went for in both games! :D


mvp wins game 1, brings a lot of scvs with 2-base timing
mvp wins game 2, brings all scvs with marines
naniwa wins game 3, blink obs
mvp wins game 3, brings scv's with proxy 2 rax

oz goes nexus first, parting wins with blink
oz 4gates with blink, parting has 2 immortals to defend, kills oz


Okey, thank you very much!


youll be able to find the game recaps for more details in the LR thread
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 02 2012 10:58 GMT
#3552
On May 02 2012 19:58 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on daybreak

In the bottom left is Oz

In the top right is Parting


3:00

Second gas for both players along with their cyber cores

Parting moving out to scout
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3553
Gateway behind minerals are to prevent cannon rush
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:59:28
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3554
On May 02 2012 19:53 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:47 Zzoram wrote:
How can people say cheesy games don't show who the better player is? Why do you all buy into Idra's losing mentality that only long macro games count as real games?

Being able to defend rushes is a skill too, one that foreigners typically sorely lack since they have some mental block where they refuse to cheese each other and as a result never get practice against it.


if you can stop a cheese, you either win or the game moves on to the macro phase - and stopping cheese is generally easier to learn than "learn how to play a solid macro game", therefore cheese almost always is a risky and desperate move taken by a lesser player.

on the other hand, if you are better at playing macro games, this is, as i mentioned very hard for the opponent in a easy way "counter" or practice against.

by perfecting a cheese you get a small weapon that works a few times, but by getting good macro you could argue that you are the better player.


So... Almost all protosses are suddenly better than every terran player now? I can't currently think of a protoss with a losing ratio post 25 minutes from these GSL stats bars. Oz is the lowest by far I've seen at 67% (which is probably 2/3).

It's equally important to not die in the first 12 minutes of the game than to go on macro cruise control >25mins in.

::Calling 3-0, suspicious play from oz
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3555
On May 02 2012 19:57 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:56 MCXD wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:55 iky43210 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:53 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:51 iky43210 wrote:
On May 02 2012 19:45 SolidZeal wrote:
Well, justice will be served, MVP vs PartinG... roflstomp

Still kinda hope that Oz can come back to make a few epic PvP's.

Oh and I'm calling it right now, PartinG vs HerO in the finals.


I don't know why people like artosis and LR constantly counts out MVP. He's still the most accomplished sc2 player to date, and have been in code S for a very long time.

Even last season he was only 1 game away from making into round of 8. And a season before that in round of 4

He probably been in round of 4 or higher more than he has not


Because we have eyes, and this is not the MVP we were used to. Call it carpal tunnel, call it PvT era or w/e. Everything not a 3-0 or 3-1 for parting will be a big surprise for me.


Using your eyes is deceptive, especially there aren't that many games you can see per season. How do you count someone out who has constantly been able to get into the round of 4 or higher nearly every season?


Because he never had to use blind cheese almost 3 games in a row to do it before?


"blind" cheese against someone who is known for going constantly forge expand 4 times in a row against zerg despite getting 6 pooled 3 times in the same game set?

Naniwa is not known for being flexible with his build. why would you not exploit that


Well Naniwa is totally retarded for not changing it up then. But it's not like MVP is a genius and displaying superb skill by doing it that way.
DropTester
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia608 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3556
On May 02 2012 19:49 trinxified wrote:
Those two immortals zoned out was more of a BM move than a sick strategy lol... It wasn't needed at all. He could've just left them in his base for extra safety.


I think if the immortals were in the base then oz could have combined his army and took out parting's army in the middle of the map.
Halvhir
Profile Joined July 2011
United States23 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3557
On May 02 2012 19:50 Akhee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:48 Halvhir wrote:
Not sure I'm getting the "brilliance" from parting that Tasteless seems to get... going aggro after seeing a nexus first and one clever trick with immortals backing down stalkers? Yeah it's impressive as hell to see the micro and decision making, but I get the sense that Oz is just being greedy/predictable...


he robo bays cancel 2 times, then zones stalkers as hes pushing, you seriously didnt see it?


Well yes, that's part of the decision making but worthy of noting. xD

Not saying it isn't impressive! Just not feeling 'brilliant' is justified, more about Oz making some poor choices and PartinG capitalizing.
EG.HuK | ST_PartinG | Liquid_HerO ... unrepentant Protoss fanboi
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3558
The gateway is behind the minerals so it will be finished before a scout arrives, so it is not as obvious that it's gas first. Would it be in the front it'd still be warping in when a standard 12 gateway scout arrives.
Get off my lawn, young punks
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3559
Oh I see. Oz placed his buildings there to avoid a walled in Cannon rush.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
May 02 2012 10:59 GMT
#3560
wow Oz going for DT gimmicks now.
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 204 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 21
IntoTheiNu 921
SteadfastSC294
TKL 167
Rex101
CosmosSc2 50
EnkiAlexander 22
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1638
SteadfastSC 294
TKL 167
Rex 104
CosmosSc2 50
Trap 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3510
Bisu 1796
Jaedong 1132
EffOrt 1074
Light 765
Horang2 708
Rush 377
Stork 332
Snow 265
Zeus 79
[ Show more ]
Pusan 50
Sexy 37
ToSsGirL 33
soO 26
Aegong 20
Terrorterran 20
Liquid`Ret 15
sorry 14
Rock 13
zelot 11
Sacsri 11
SilentControl 10
firebathero 0
Dota 2
Gorgc5636
qojqva3192
Dendi1256
syndereN467
BananaSlamJamma92
Counter-Strike
x6flipin276
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu256
Other Games
singsing1951
hiko1253
B2W.Neo814
ceh9336
Lowko304
Liquid`VortiX237
Hui .208
mouzStarbuck171
Pyrionflax102
KnowMe101
ArmadaUGS85
OGKoka 63
Trikslyr33
fl0m2
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 36
• mYiSmile122
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV534
League of Legends
• Nemesis2542
• Jankos1736
• TFBlade877
Other Games
• Shiphtur55
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
50m
Replay Cast
8h 35m
The PondCast
18h 35m
OSC
1d 7h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 19h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Special KOR vs CHN
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.