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freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 22:55:16
April 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#561
On April 21 2012 07:51 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 07:49 SeaSwift wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:47 xrapture wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:36 Exarl25 wrote:
Honestly it's disgusting that 1/1/1 is still this effective. I know it's not unbeatable but I think it's far, far stronger than any one base all in should be. What other build is comparable at this point?



-_- because 1base vs fast greedy 3base with no scout is really comparable with anything at all.


And nexus first is what? not greedy? I'm failing to see your point. Both all ins are strong vs greedy builds.


fast expand builds are supposed to be the "counter" to 1-1-1.
There is no counter to 1-1-1, there only some specific builds that give you some kind of chance winning against it.

TimePlay
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany66 Posts
April 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#562
Paywall really sucks. I don't think this is a good thing for esport, better make it like the other tournaments, free low quality and ticket for higher quality and vods. Thats just fair! I really hate this new MLG policy.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#563
Ummm, so does the pay wall works this time?

I´m still kinda pissed off over the fail that was the last Arena(I payed back then) and I was wondering if I should bother paying
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
April 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#564
Anyone else having trouble with the stream? All I get is the 'go to MLG live page to watch'-splashscreen while I am on MLG live.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#565
On April 21 2012 07:49 HolydaKing wrote:
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On April 21 2012 07:46 SenorChang wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:44 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:42 SenorChang wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:41 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:40 hugman wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:39 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:38 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Everyone wants these epic macro games... Why in MKPs shoes would you play to your opponents strengths? Late game protoss against one of the best late game protoss vs terran players.


He can do whatever he wants, it doesn't change the fact that the fans want to see a longer game between these two.

It's just disappointing as a spectator.


Speak for yourself
If SC2 was nothing but 30min macro games it'd be boring


If you want to watch games with one base all-ins good for you but you're in the minority.

That's not what he's saying.
He is saying variety is good
and a lot more of the creative builds are cheesy


Yeah he's right but this is the matchup that I wanted to see longer games in out of everything in the entire tournament, meh.


Also have to keep in mind these guys are going to be playing a tonne of games over the next three days, they have to do these builds. Imagine how fatigued you would get played macro games every set.

I never got that logic. I always thought progamers play 20 games or more every day anyway... atleast in Korea where they train hard. So that shouldn't be any problem to play 10 games or so in a macro style. Maybe that argument fits if they are still jet lagged and that might be the case for today.



Sitting around in your room playing on ladder is not playing in front of people, and thousands online.
Hudson Valley Progamer
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
April 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#566
On April 21 2012 07:45 Ornithorynquez wrote:
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On April 21 2012 07:37 TheBanana wrote:
I'm disappointed they didn't use the technical term "Artosis Pylon".


Looks like the "Artosis pylon" thing is now some sort of taboo between them. And to be fair these pylons scenarios occurs quite often, so in the end i can understand if Artosis gets a little bit annoyed by this.


But that's what makes it funny.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 20 2012 22:55 GMT
#567
On April 21 2012 07:51 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 07:49 SeaSwift wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:47 xrapture wrote:
On April 21 2012 07:36 Exarl25 wrote:
Honestly it's disgusting that 1/1/1 is still this effective. I know it's not unbeatable but I think it's far, far stronger than any one base all in should be. What other build is comparable at this point?



-_- because 1base vs fast greedy 3base with no scout is really comparable with anything at all.


And nexus first is what? not greedy? I'm failing to see your point. Both all ins are strong vs greedy builds.


Why are we arguing this? You just heavily implied that the 1-1-1 is comparable in strength to 1base 3gate Immortal bust. What point are you trying to prove here?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 20 2012 22:55 GMT
#568
damn violet is good!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 20 2012 22:55 GMT
#569
oh well, at least Idra is streaming right now...
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
April 20 2012 22:55 GMT
#570
Oh well T_T MLG ought to learn from IPL.

Anyway that was fun, I wonder why they put the paywall on Heart vs viOlet as well.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
April 20 2012 22:55 GMT
#571
Still an interesting series, but it was nothing like the MKP vs Parting we saw at GSTL and earlier.

I was really just hoping for at least 1 macro game...
LingBlingMuta
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States382 Posts
April 20 2012 22:55 GMT
#572
So I bought the ticket how can I tell if Im through the paywall..

I had to go to twtich and enter my code and all that earlier
The Gracken shall be re-released... Soon
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#573
go DRG!!
moo...for DRG
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#574
On April 21 2012 07:55 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Oh well T_T MLG ought to learn from IPL.

Anyway that was fun, I wonder why they put the paywall on Heart vs viOlet as well.

The paywall doesn't go up until after game 3 though
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
masakenji
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia415 Posts
April 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#575
cant see to buy a season pass. got an error
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
April 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#576
Aww its ppv ((, guess i will just watch dreamhack this weekend instead, gogo Tlo. Games there is played at better times for Europeans anyway.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#577
I bought my pass earlier and now it still puts me on a paywall...
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 20 2012 22:57 GMT
#578
loving the FP of players! :D
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 20 2012 22:57 GMT
#579
On April 21 2012 07:56 neoghaleon55 wrote:
go DRG!!


go MC!!
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
April 20 2012 22:57 GMT
#580
so i bought a ppv pass but it wont let me watch....
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