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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#3521
On April 19 2012 22:58 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:55 dragonborn wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:53 GreyKnight wrote:
How do people think Naniwa is going to beat MVP objectively? Are you kidding me guys.

MLG Invitational

NaNiwa 2 MVP 1

so its okay to saying that.

Are you really bringing something up from a completely different metagame from like half a year ago?

now protoss is more favored than half a year ago in PvT
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
April 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#3522
If MVP can play this well with his wrists, how good will he be in perfect condition?

Dam, Hopes he has a fairtytale run this season. After just barely making it through in the Ro32 and RO16, he rides the momentum and wins.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
April 19 2012 14:00 GMT
#3523
On April 19 2012 22:56 WArped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:53 GreyKnight wrote:
How do people think Naniwa is going to beat MVP objectively? Are you kidding me guys.


I would put Naniwas PvT on the same level as HerO's, maybe slightly better. That's my opinion anyway.


In general I'd say yeah, of course MVP should be the favorite, and if he destroys Nani it won't really be a surprise. But Naniwa has looked damn solid this season, whereas MVP has been a bit shaky, and PvT at the moment isn't exactly a terrible matchup for protoss, so I think it could go either way. It depends on their preparation and how they actually play that day -- Naniwa in form against an MVP that isn't 100%? Yeah, Naniwa could take that. If they both play their absolute best, I'd have to imagine MVP takes it, because at his peak he just looks like a monster.

That's kind of the fun part of watching any kind of sport or competition, though -- won't really know what happens til you see the game :-)
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 14:02:18
April 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#3524
On April 19 2012 22:59 Vansetsu wrote:
I never say shit like this, but WOW at all the butthurt Zergs on TL. Seriously, EVERY SINGLE TIME a Zerg doesn't make it through ect, half the Zerg user base goes nuts in the LR threads. I really just don't get it, but I am sure someone will quote me and explain it to me.


Either you're a terran which never had any real balance problems (are fine now) or a toss. And if you're a toss have you even noticed the "Sad Zealot fan club" yeah. When no protoss got into the r8 it was a lot of butthurt tosses. Just accept that the race need buffs (just like toss needed when there were no in the r8)

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Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
April 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#3525
On April 19 2012 22:55 ThePowerHour wrote:
Haha did you see the Twitter posts at the end there?

STLegend (@gslobserver) "I am looking for a girlfriend <3"


Lol he is awesome. What is the context thought?
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 14:01:55
April 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#3526
On April 19 2012 22:57 ladyumbra wrote:
I'm going to miss TvZ so much in the coming weeks. I'm still overall happy with the results of who is moving on but IDK I've always found TvZ to be the most fun to watch.

Everyone knows TvZ is the best and most enjoyable/entertaining match up =) It's been like this since BW.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 14:03:40
April 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#3527
On April 19 2012 23:00 bittman wrote:
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On April 19 2012 22:57 GreyKnight wrote:
Sorry i misphrased that how do people think naniwa is going to easily beat MVP. I'd say it's a close match and not predictable at all.


Dont worry I understood the original meaning. So many people saying how easy Naniwa has it in Ro8 with MVP. You know, the player of 2011.

Hate PvZ or not, Naniwa would surely much prefer Leenock ZvP over MVP TvP in my opinion.

Out of interest though, I missed the MVP Hero games. How did MVP's TvP look? And how did Heros PvT look? Objectively (or with fact) how do people think they stack up in the next round?

In his interview yesterday he said he would prefer PvT because he's not confident in his PvZ, so your opinion doesn't matter when we have Naniwa's opinion instead!

but also

+ Show Spoiler +
You said that you find PvZ difficult. Which player worries you?

I am scared of DRG so it’s fortunate that he’s been eliminated early. If I have to face IMMVP on a map which favours him, it won’t be easy. Objectively though, there isn’t a player in Code S that really makes me afraid.

Interview from yesterday
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RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation390 Posts
April 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#3528
dang... now I dont know who to cheer for in ro8 1st match..........
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
April 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#3529
On April 19 2012 22:58 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:56 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:56 Sroobz wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:55 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:52 Noocta wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:51 Megiddosc wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:50 d6Mesh wrote:
Love Mvp's playstyle, great games.

Yep. 2base all-in.

Excellent playstyle.


It's Dual sight, what did you expect ?

Dual sight is actually easier for a terran to defend his 3rd than a zerg, coz PF, terran may wanna set up 3rd while pushing most of the time on this map. but mvp lost lots of scvs at natural which leave him no choice but to kinda all-in.
Leenock flank attack did a little bit less than i thought which made him behind.


No.

so explain, please?


It's just something all progamers and players that watch a lot of games on Dual Site say. If Terran goes fast third on Dual Sight, they lose.

reference?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#3530
On April 19 2012 23:00 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:57 GreyKnight wrote:
Sorry i misphrased that how do people think naniwa is going to easily beat MVP. I'd say it's a close match and not predictable at all.


Dont worry I understood the original meaning. So many people saying how easy Naniwa has it in Ro8 with MVP. You know, the player of 2011.

Hate PvZ or not, Naniwa would surely much prefer Leenock ZvP over MVP TvP in my opinion.

Out of interest though, I missed the MVP Hero games. How did MVP's TvP look? And how did Heros PvT look? Objectively (or with fact) how do people think they stack up in the next round?


Mvp didn't look terrible but Hero was playing some of the best games of his life today.

It took Mvp 5 minutes of constant attacking 6 base to 3 base on Antiga to kill Hero, if that means anything.

I think his TvP is about the same as it always was, good enough to win most of the time but not guaranteed against great players.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
April 19 2012 14:02 GMT
#3531
trololol my prediction was right the season of terran and protoss continues!
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 19 2012 14:03 GMT
#3532
On April 19 2012 22:59 Vansetsu wrote:
I never say shit like this, but WOW at all the butthurt Zergs on TL. Seriously, EVERY SINGLE TIME a Zerg doesn't make it through ect, half the Zerg user base goes nuts in the LR threads. I really just don't get it, but I am sure someone will quote me and explain it to me.


Here you go.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 19 2012 14:03 GMT
#3533
MvP not at the top of his game and in his worst matchup against Naniwa who's on a roll in one of his better matchups. It isn't going to be a cakewalk for Nani but it's certainly a more even match.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 19 2012 14:03 GMT
#3534
IMMVP is on the war march to reclaim his title as the GOAT so far in SCII. Hopefully his wrists don't get to him to much
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
April 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#3535
Oh well, I guess I will have more time to ladder now

Or, well, almost! Cause I'm of course gonna watch Naniwa! :D
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
April 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#3536
On April 19 2012 23:00 poorcloud wrote:
If MVP can play this well with his wrists, how good will he be in perfect condition?


I honestly hope one day we can see MVP at that level where his CTS is practically gone and he brings his very best games. I can only dare fathom the tasks he can do at 100%.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
April 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#3537
On April 19 2012 22:56 Sareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:53 GreyKnight wrote:
How do people think Naniwa is going to beat MVP objectively? Are you kidding me guys.

MVPs TvZ is a lot better than his TvP...
he lost today against HerO, and playwise i would say HerO and Naniwa are at PvT on the same level.


TvP probably MVP weakest matchup, though probably still stronger than most Terran
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#3538
I can't wait to see MvP's TvP when he only has to practice it for the next couple of weeks. Great games tonight ( if we forget the zvz) gratz Hero /Mvp!!!
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
April 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#3539
4\4
GOGOGO MVP
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
April 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#3540
If MVP rush or proxy Naniwa he can win. If he let it go into mid game, Naniwa will crush MVP and make it look as easy as previously. That is how good Naniwa is at the moment.
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