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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 19 2012 14:15 GMT
#3561
On April 19 2012 23:12 GodZo wrote:
Game never will be balanced, if Blizzard doesn't remove/replace the Mule or chance some Resources mechanics. I say this from 2 years.

1 season, there are not toss
1 season, there are not zergs

Terran are always there, in 2010, 2011, 2012.

Will see in HotS.


That's rubbish. Firstly, there's no link from terran success and the mule. Secondly, mule was changed recently, thirdly, there have been no seasons with no protoss or zerg. They have had less successful seasons.

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 14:17:41
April 19 2012 14:16 GMT
#3562
On April 19 2012 23:14 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:12 GodZo wrote:
Game never will be balanced, if Blizzard doesn't remove/replace the Mule or chance some Resources mechanics. I say this from 2 years.

1 season, there are not toss
1 season, there are not zergs

Terran are always there, in 2010, 2011, 2012.

Will see in HotS.


If mules will be removed, you have to remove chronoboost and larva inject as well


Blizzard will actually troll in this expansion and the next they will just get all of bw units and make it with better graphics (joking but wish it was true ...)
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
April 19 2012 14:16 GMT
#3563
On April 19 2012 23:06 trinxified wrote:
Funny how Mvp always manages to cut it close and make it anyway. I won't be surprised if he wins the whole GSL like this.


Mvp knows he's gonna win every game like he used to. If he's gonna win this GSL, it's gonna be very scrappy, like the games we saw vs Leenock.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
April 19 2012 14:17 GMT
#3564
On April 19 2012 23:15 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:12 GodZo wrote:
Game never will be balanced, if Blizzard doesn't remove/replace the Mule or chance some Resources mechanics. I say this from 2 years.

1 season, there are not toss
1 season, there are not zergs

Terran are always there, in 2010, 2011, 2012.

Will see in HotS.


That's rubbish. Firstly, there's no link from terran success and the mule. Secondly, mule was changed recently, thirdly, there have been no seasons with no protoss or zerg. They have had less successful seasons.



While I do agree with you. Your second point is useless..
리노크 👑
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2601 Posts
April 19 2012 14:19 GMT
#3565
Besides, last season DRG was owning everyone, its still too early to demand a buff...
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
April 19 2012 14:20 GMT
#3566
On April 19 2012 23:19 gTank wrote:
Besides, last season DRG was owning everyone, its still too early to demand a buff...


I think we should not be demanding buffs...we should just be hoping for zerg heroes.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
April 19 2012 14:21 GMT
#3567
On April 19 2012 23:14 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:12 GodZo wrote:
Game never will be balanced, if Blizzard doesn't remove/replace the Mule or chance some Resources mechanics. I say this from 2 years.

1 season, there are not toss
1 season, there are not zergs

Terran are always there, in 2010, 2011, 2012.

Will see in HotS.


If mules will be removed, you have to remove chronoboost and larva inject as well


reactored commandcenters!
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2601 Posts
April 19 2012 14:23 GMT
#3568
On April 19 2012 23:21 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:14 gTank wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:12 GodZo wrote:
Game never will be balanced, if Blizzard doesn't remove/replace the Mule or chance some Resources mechanics. I say this from 2 years.

1 season, there are not toss
1 season, there are not zergs

Terran are always there, in 2010, 2011, 2012.

Will see in HotS.


If mules will be removed, you have to remove chronoboost and larva inject as well


reactored commandcenters!


:O
mind is blown!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
April 19 2012 14:24 GMT
#3569
Naniwa vs MVP in RO8, epic!!
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 19 2012 14:24 GMT
#3570
On April 19 2012 23:21 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:14 gTank wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:12 GodZo wrote:
Game never will be balanced, if Blizzard doesn't remove/replace the Mule or chance some Resources mechanics. I say this from 2 years.

1 season, there are not toss
1 season, there are not zergs

Terran are always there, in 2010, 2011, 2012.

Will see in HotS.


If mules will be removed, you have to remove chronoboost and larva inject as well


reactored commandcenters!


With tech labs, so they can make scvs with reaper packs.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
April 19 2012 14:25 GMT
#3571
i understand why so many people think naniwa will win easily, but you guys are forgetting one of mvps biggest strengths

ro32 and ro16 in this newer gsl format is group stage, where you have to prepare for not just a larger variety of maps (also determined by loser of first map), but a variety of opponents as well

when mvp is given the time to prepare for a specific opponent, more often than not he capitalizes on it

mvp always pulls through when it counts, and i feel like this will be no different. in fact, if anything, i'm expecting a rather stompage in mvps favor, especially since naniwa will be attending dreamhack

but you never know, besides mkp and parting, no one really has a solid foothold in pvt/tvp, so can't say

regardless of that though, mvp is mvp!
IMMvp #1 :)
Ancient-Hunter
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)142 Posts
April 19 2012 14:25 GMT
#3572
I remember back in BW when a guy named boxer made Terran relevant in an all P&Z world.
Let's fly!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 19 2012 14:27 GMT
#3573
On April 19 2012 23:25 Ancient-Hunter wrote:
I remember back in BW when a guy named boxer made Terran relevant in an all P&Z world.


Zerg needs a hero?
Ancient-Hunter
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)142 Posts
April 19 2012 14:30 GMT
#3574
Zerg needs a hero?


Couldn't hurt! :D
Let's fly!
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 14:31:40
April 19 2012 14:31 GMT
#3575
naniwa have a pretty good shot against mvp :D
so does herO against supernova

we also can have a liquid finals haha
Mlex
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada324 Posts
April 19 2012 14:33 GMT
#3576
I want to cheer for Naniwa to win vs MVP, but quite frankly, I'd love to see the third (I think) MVP vs MarineKing finals, and maybe have MKP win this time.

Then again, MarineKing plays like a little girl whenever he faces MVP. =\
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber." | MVP: the Royal Roadblock, the King.
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 14:37:46
April 19 2012 14:33 GMT
#3577
On April 19 2012 23:14 Nihilnovi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:04 kimchikid wrote:
If MVP rush or proxy Naniwa he can win. If he let it go into mid game, Naniwa will crush MVP and make it look as easy as previously. That is how good Naniwa is at the moment.


No. Just no. I know you're from sweden and all (and some am I) but take of your fanboy blindfold and see the light mate.


Well of course I sheer for Naniwa but please don't talk about fanboy stuff. I have been watching GSL/MLG/ESL/NASL closely for a year and rarely missed a game. I am a huge fan of MVP, Nestea, MC several others.I also like other Swedes like Thorzain.

What i sincerely believe is that when Naniwa will beat MVP and other Terrans with some ease. I am more afraid of the best Protosses in Ro8, PVP is more difficult to predict.

My point is: for all of them, does not matter which race, don't let Naniwa into midgame.

This has been true for the last 3 MLG runs and the same in this GSL.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 19 2012 14:34 GMT
#3578
On April 19 2012 23:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 23:25 Ancient-Hunter wrote:
I remember back in BW when a guy named boxer made Terran relevant in an all P&Z world.


Zerg needs a hero?


They need a consistent hero. DRG's sharp fall (by which I mean one bad Ro32) probably skewed this season dramatically, however largely players like Curious and Nestea also floundered in the Ro32.

DRG is still the zerg hero, but on TL a race is only as good as it's champion. That's why Protoss was UP when MC went on a slump. (yes there may have been other reasons).

Terran have almost always had multiple heroes. Players like MVP, MKP and MMA have stuck near the top of the game. It's hard for terran to look bad when 3 very strong players perform consistently.

But yeah, I agree with the sentiment that the only problem with zerg is that their players aren't performing at the moment. They just sort of all chose the same season to do it and left Leenock to try clean up the mess.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 19 2012 14:35 GMT
#3579
On April 19 2012 23:33 Mlex wrote:
I want to cheer for Naniwa to win vs MVP, but quite frankly, I'd love to see the third (I think) MVP vs MarineKing finals, and maybe have MKP win this time.

Then again, MarineKing plays like a little girl whenever he faces MVP. =\


MKP/MVP finals will need MKP to take second place in his group. Possibility, but I think if he gets out of the group, he'll get out in first place.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 19 2012 14:36 GMT
#3580
On April 19 2012 23:03 feanor1 wrote:
IMMVP is on the war march to reclaim his title as the GOAT so far in SCII. Hopefully his wrists don't get to him to much


I think MVP is Anderson Silva and NesTea is Fedor.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
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