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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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On March 25 2012 05:35 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:33 pumpy145 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 Heavenly wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 pumpy145 wrote:
how did PuMa lose though? I didnt watch it Ostojiy kept pressing for a DQ because Puma was two minutes late, then all-inned the next two games. wow... dick move Someone posted it on TL, I'm going to believe him IMMEDIATELY! If a player is later than a certain amount, the admins can auto-disqualify them or offer their opponent a free win. This, "pressing for a DQ" is extrapolated by random people based on little to no information. Many players have auto-dropped games or been entirely disqualified for being late, this isn't the first time. Don't blame the guy who showed up on time, blame MLGs rules, the admins, or the person who showed up late.
wut. That random person is CEO of Evil Geniuses Alex Garfield.
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On March 25 2012 05:37 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Bracket 1:
TLO vs Nony
Hasuobs vs Goswer
winners play each other
winner of that game plays Sheth.
Liquid bracket! MLG's trolling TL.
It wouldnt be an MLG without TL eliminating all its own players
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On March 25 2012 05:36 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:35 Fragile51 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:33 Vetrocide wrote:On March 25 2012 05:32 Fragile51 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 NipponBanzai wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 pumpy145 wrote:
how did PuMa lose though? I didnt watch it He forfeited first game because he was late and then he got all-ined twice and lost to the second one. So what? Puma was in fact late, and the fact that he allined twice is completely irrelevant. Sure, it's a bit of a dick move, but not exactly something back-handed or whatever. If Puma and EG didnt want this to occur they should have been on time. he could have been a good sport and not taken the walkover when it was optional and puma was 2 minutes late Yes. He could have. But why? To ease the minds of some people on the forums? Come on now, he's a competitive player and he has no obligation to not accept a free-win when it is offered to him. He enforced the win. Most people playing sports have something like sportmanship where you wait if your opponent is a couple minutes left. Everything else is extremely bad mannered in an offensive way. Did you never play any kind of sports?
Coming late for a scheduled match and then expecting your opponent to just roll over and not take the free win is whats bad mannered here. EG let their player get late for his match and payed the price for it.
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On March 25 2012 05:37 Lunares wrote:
A random scrub forfeiting against White-Ra in the losers bracket when you aren't even at the last stage yet is HUGELY different from getting a free win in a winners bracket final that lets you advance straight into pool play. Ostijoy absolutely made the correct (if dickish) decision to take the forfeit.
Puma wasn't 2 minutes late, he was 2 minutes later than the forfeit time (which I believe is 10 minutes). Ostijoy played the series exactly as cutthroat as he should as an SC2 player.
Rules are rules. You can't be a dick to follow them. It's your right.
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On March 25 2012 05:35 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:34 Tarotis wrote:On March 25 2012 05:32 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 xrapture wrote:On March 25 2012 05:29 negativedge wrote:
that series was an embarassment for MLG. DRG should not ever have to play Some Guy.
though I guess the embarassment is that Some Guy somehow beat Puma
he acted like a kid and demanded to get a game in the series because Puma was 2 minutes late, and then cheesed 2 games in a row. I'm glad DRG swatted him away like a fly tbh. When Ostojy loses 0-5 and doesn't win a single game in his group I'll know there's order in the world. and you heard it from what? some random guy? From Alex Garfield, the executive director of EG  Yeah, so basically you heard it from a biased source. Wait till you get the full story before calling people out already.
doesn't matter. The fact he asked for the walkover, or hell even accepted it without contesting, is enough for me to dislike him and lose respect for the team.
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On March 25 2012 05:34 ale_jrb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:33 Toppp wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 HaXXspetten wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 pumpy145 wrote:
how did PuMa lose though? I didnt watch it he was 2 minutes late to the first game, so Ostojiy wanted a walkover for the first map; got it, and then cheesed him twice >.> He didn't "want the walkover" don't act like he did something in bad taste, he was offered the walkover. Also, Puma was way later than 2 minutes. Would you decline the walkover vs a high level Korean terran? No. Not to mention he won one game, so whos to say that he couldn't of beat Puma in 2 games? He demanded a walkover from the admins, Puma wasn't way later than 2 minutes, though it was more. And people generally dislike cheesy players. So it's not really unexpected that he didn't pick up loads of fans.
Which makes me wonder why so many people are behind Puma on this issue. Just desperate for drama I suppose.
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On March 25 2012 05:35 seansye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:34 Golgotha wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 xrapture wrote:On March 25 2012 05:29 negativedge wrote:
that series was an embarassment for MLG. DRG should not ever have to play Some Guy.
though I guess the embarassment is that Some Guy somehow beat Puma
he acted like a kid and demanded to get a game in the series because Puma was 2 minutes late, and then cheesed 2 games in a row. I'm glad DRG swatted him away like a fly tbh. When Ostojy loses 0-5 and doesn't win a single game in his group I'll know there's order in the world. LOL oh man does ostoboy not know that many players have set the precedent of actually waiting for late players? Whitera for example...they even forfeited the games themselves to negate the DQ! i guess there are classy players who can wait for 30 minutes but less classy players who cry about 2 minutes... And then cheeses him both times 
I'm surprised people actually complain about Puma getting cheesed....
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On March 25 2012 05:37 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:36 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:34 Tarotis wrote:On March 25 2012 05:32 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 xrapture wrote:On March 25 2012 05:29 negativedge wrote:
that series was an embarassment for MLG. DRG should not ever have to play Some Guy.
though I guess the embarassment is that Some Guy somehow beat Puma
he acted like a kid and demanded to get a game in the series because Puma was 2 minutes late, and then cheesed 2 games in a row. I'm glad DRG swatted him away like a fly tbh. When Ostojy loses 0-5 and doesn't win a single game in his group I'll know there's order in the world. and you heard it from what? some random guy? From Alex Garfield, the executive director of EG Oh right, director of EG. Dont you see that? We have EG's point of view of that situation but not one from Ostojy's side, so we are gonna just blindly believe that, right? What we choose to blindly believe is our choice!
True, but I hope you see my point. This was more aimed to people calling Ostojy BM guy, loser or something similar when in fact they did not knew what happened for real,
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On March 25 2012 05:35 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:33 pumpy145 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 Heavenly wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 pumpy145 wrote:
how did PuMa lose though? I didnt watch it Ostojiy kept pressing for a DQ because Puma was two minutes late, then all-inned the next two games. wow... dick move Win is a win is a win.
I hope he is happy with his 'win' but he is not going to get any respect from TL and we are going to grab popcorns while he gets crushed
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On March 25 2012 05:38 Full.tilt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:34 ale_jrb wrote:On March 25 2012 05:33 Toppp wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 HaXXspetten wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 pumpy145 wrote:
how did PuMa lose though? I didnt watch it he was 2 minutes late to the first game, so Ostojiy wanted a walkover for the first map; got it, and then cheesed him twice >.> He didn't "want the walkover" don't act like he did something in bad taste, he was offered the walkover. Also, Puma was way later than 2 minutes. Would you decline the walkover vs a high level Korean terran? No. Not to mention he won one game, so whos to say that he couldn't of beat Puma in 2 games? He demanded a walkover from the admins, Puma wasn't way later than 2 minutes, though it was more. And people generally dislike cheesy players. So it's not really unexpected that he didn't pick up loads of fans. Which makes me wonder why so many people are behind Puma on this issue. Just desperate for drama I suppose.
Puma often showed he isnt depending on all-ins to win against top players.
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On March 25 2012 05:36 andis35 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:34 Tarotis wrote:On March 25 2012 05:32 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 xrapture wrote:On March 25 2012 05:29 negativedge wrote:
that series was an embarassment for MLG. DRG should not ever have to play Some Guy.
though I guess the embarassment is that Some Guy somehow beat Puma
he acted like a kid and demanded to get a game in the series because Puma was 2 minutes late, and then cheesed 2 games in a row. I'm glad DRG swatted him away like a fly tbh. When Ostojy loses 0-5 and doesn't win a single game in his group I'll know there's order in the world. and you heard it from what? some random guy? From Alex Garfield, the executive director of EG Oh right, director of EG. Dont you see that? We have EG's point of view of that situation but not one from Ostojy's side, so we are gonna just blindly believe that, right?
why would Alex lie? Dude has a lot to lose by lying in this situation. No one said anything other than that sucks for Puma being late until we found out what happened.
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On March 25 2012 05:38 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:35 Fragile51 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:34 Tarotis wrote:On March 25 2012 05:32 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 xrapture wrote:On March 25 2012 05:29 negativedge wrote:
that series was an embarassment for MLG. DRG should not ever have to play Some Guy.
though I guess the embarassment is that Some Guy somehow beat Puma
he acted like a kid and demanded to get a game in the series because Puma was 2 minutes late, and then cheesed 2 games in a row. I'm glad DRG swatted him away like a fly tbh. When Ostojy loses 0-5 and doesn't win a single game in his group I'll know there's order in the world. and you heard it from what? some random guy? From Alex Garfield, the executive director of EG Yeah, so basically you heard it from a biased source. Wait till you get the full story before calling people out already. doesn't matter. The fact he asked for the walkover, or hell even accepted it without contesting, is enough for me to dislike him and lose respect for the team.
Why? I expect any sc2 player to try to win. This was a free win to advance straight into pool play or fall into the losers bracket, that's a huge deal. If he can get a walkover win because Puma broke the rules then that's that. Don't be late.
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Any reports on Oz vs. Rain, please?
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On March 25 2012 05:37 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Bracket 1:
TLO vs Nony
Hasuobs vs Goswer
winners play each other
winner of that game plays Sheth.
Liquid bracket! MLG's trolling TL.
Yeah, but hey... the odds are good there'll be a Liquid guy coming out of that bracket.
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On March 25 2012 05:38 XiGua wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:36 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:34 Tarotis wrote:On March 25 2012 05:32 andis35 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:31 xrapture wrote:On March 25 2012 05:29 negativedge wrote:
that series was an embarassment for MLG. DRG should not ever have to play Some Guy.
though I guess the embarassment is that Some Guy somehow beat Puma
he acted like a kid and demanded to get a game in the series because Puma was 2 minutes late, and then cheesed 2 games in a row. I'm glad DRG swatted him away like a fly tbh. When Ostojy loses 0-5 and doesn't win a single game in his group I'll know there's order in the world. and you heard it from what? some random guy? From Alex Garfield, the executive director of EG Oh right, director of EG. Dont you see that? We have EG's point of view of that situation but not one from Ostojy's side, so we are gonna just blindly believe that, right? I do believe that Ostojy "whined" like a kid. But what I'm afraid of is reddit grabbing their pitchforks and ruining his SC2 career. :/
Reddit actually ripped Alex Garfield for being an ass in that one.
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On March 25 2012 05:39 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:35 The KY wrote:On March 25 2012 05:33 pumpy145 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 Heavenly wrote:On March 25 2012 05:30 pumpy145 wrote:
how did PuMa lose though? I didnt watch it Ostojiy kept pressing for a DQ because Puma was two minutes late, then all-inned the next two games. wow... dick move Win is a win is a win. I hope he is happy with his 'win' but he is not going to get any respect from TL and we are going to grab popcorns while he gets crushed
Exactly
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