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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:39 Gubbernecco wrote: ah ok, but i think they didnt show the first map jyp is leading 1-0 I don't think anyone showed the first map, which is too bad. I would have liked to see it. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:37 Heavenly wrote: Read the context? He was gloating as if WhiteRa is the better player in general, saying "luck now Seraphone"? Obviously he won the series and "played better", that doesn't make him the better player oh man this is why I don't usually bother posting in LR threads any more, everyone is so petty and loves arguing semantics, have fun  | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:40 KiNGxXx wrote: + Show Spoiler [Games & Streams] + ESL TV: Socke vs Killer GLHF.tv: JYP vs Violet IMBA TV: JYP vs Violet GameSports (german): Socke vs Killer ESL France: SC2TV (RU): Socke vs Killer GoodGame (RU): Socke vs Killer ESL Spain: Socke vs Killer ESL Poland: JYP vs Violet ESL Brasil: ESL Italy: ESL Asia: All streams at www.esl.tv thx | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:39 Full.tilt wrote: Why don't you educate me then? One issue is about how a player judges a game and gg's. The other issue is about a player dropping from the game whilst arguably being in a couple of ways and fanboys from either side arguing about it. The point is that you don't win a game by being ahead, you win the game by killing your opponent. When Idra leaves early, he forgets that and considers he lost when he's at a disavantadge that he can somehow overcome. Which is the same mistake made by people saying there shouldn't have been a rematch between MC an Whitera. Whitera was ahead, but MC was nowhere near GG'ing (because he's no Idra) | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8703 Posts
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:40 Savern101 wrote: People like Inca and Elfi would like to disagree with you. Also, MC's win rate vs P is 71%... which is enormous. Inca's recent PvP is nothing special at all. About a 50% win rate. Elfi has lost shit loads of PvP's recently to even total no names. MC has won 5 and lost 3 PvP's in the last six months. PvP was actually more skill based when everyone just 4 gated because at least it was all micro rather than just mind games and blind guessing. As for Oz he's played 23 PvP games which is nothing and international he's only 5-5 losing to Wannebecool and Huk. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10842 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:37 nokz88 wrote: Idra leaves a game because he thinks there's no way he will win when he's behind. People demanded a loss for MC because he was, guess what, behind. Can't you tell both have the same kind of mentality? Or am I being too logical to argue with a blind fanboi? No, you don't get it. Idra's job is to win and he should damn well try everythign he can and not GG just because he feels unhappy with the ingame situation he got himself into. White-Ra was on the way of soundly beating MC in a Macro game and then Bnet or his Computer denied him the final push. People wanted to see him crush MC and got a little emotional/irrational. It was a clear situation for a regame even tho White-Ra wins that game probably 9 out of 10 times, no one wass seriously calling the regame the "wrong" decision. Btw: With Idra in MC's place this would never have happened, Idra would probably have scouted White-Ra, saw that he is behind and tapped out.. Like the true boss he is... It's not the same at all. | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
anyway, hoping to see a lot of protosses lose because I hate watching PvP. | ||
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:44 Heavenly wrote: yeah, done arguing semantics, WhiteRa won the series so he was the better player of the series. anyway, hoping to see a lot of protosses lose because I hate watching PvP. Still better than ZvZ, but not half as good as TvT  I am rooting for Killer tho. He looks so handsome ^^ | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:35 Full.tilt wrote: Just imagine when someone says "better player won" they forgot to add "in this series" if you still feel like arguing you are an irrational fanboy because at the end of a series there is a winner and a loser and it's not unreasonable or illogical to describe the winner as the better player. Except it's PvP..>_> | ||
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Emptyness
Bulgaria1016 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:46 DoubleB wrote: Still better than ZvZ, but not half as good as TvT I am rooting for Killer tho. He looks so handsome ^^ ZvZ is much better than PvP haha =p Looks like viOlet is in a decent position vs JYP in g2. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:43 Velr wrote: No, you don't get it. Idra's job is to win and he should damn well try everythign he can and not GG just because he feels unhappy with the ingame situation he got himself into. White-Ra was on the way of soundly beating MC in a Macro game and then Bnet or his Computer denied him the final push. People wanted to see him crush MC and got a little emotional/irrational. It was a clear situation for a regame even tho White-Ra wins that game probably 9 out of 10 times, no one wass seriously calling the regame the "wrong" decision. Btw: With Idra in MC's place this would never have happened, Idra would probably have scouted White-Ra, saw that he is behind and tapped out.. Like the true boss he is... It's not the same at all. No, people legitimately believed that the game should've been given to Whitera. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:46 DoubleB wrote: Still better than ZvZ, but not half as good as TvT I am rooting for Killer tho. He looks so handsome ^^ ZvZ is way less luck based. I'd say there's extremely little luck in ZvZ anymore. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Except it is MC and White-ra, two very skilled players. The match up between them requires skill and white-ra played better. He is not usually the better player but in this series he was clearly best. | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:46 DoubleB wrote: Still better than ZvZ, but not half as good as TvT I am rooting for Killer tho. He looks so handsome ^^ Eh..not better than ZvZ. The mid game of ZvZ has some variations and actual timings to hit, PvP is just turtle to 200/200 and see who gets the first colossi shot off in the main engagement. Game 3 MC tried some cute stuff but in the end it doesn't even matter to a turtling protoss  Never thought I'd see the day where protoss suddenly overwhelmed tournaments, it's weird because nothing seemed to change but for some reason builds that used to get crushed easily are working again in some matchups like PvZ. | ||
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