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On March 06 2012 19:48 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:43 Velr wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 nokz88 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Full.tilt wrote:On March 06 2012 19:29 nokz88 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Full.tilt wrote:On March 06 2012 19:26 nokz88 wrote:
Idra gets shit on because he leaves a game he thinks he's behind, and the same community demands a loss for MC because he was behind.
You guys are messed up. If that's not double standards I don't know what is. You are insane or high or drunk, maybe all 3. I like your argumentation skills I like the new words you invent. The only comparison between Idra leaving a game and people wanting a win for White RA after a drop is that they were both playing SC2. Idra leaves a game because he thinks there's no way he will win when he's behind. People demanded a loss for MC because he was, guess what, behind. Can't you tell both have the same kind of mentality? Or am I being too logical to argue with a blind fanboi? No, you don't get it. Idra's job is to win and he should damn well try everythign he can and not GG just because he feels unhappy with the ingame situation he got himself into. White-Ra was on the way of soundly beating MC in a Macro game and then Bnet or his Computer denied him the final push. People wanted to see him crush MC and got a little emotional/irrational. It was a clear situation for a regame even tho White-Ra wins that game probably 9 out of 10 times, no one wass seriously calling the regame the "wrong" decision. Btw: With Idra in MC's place this would never have happened, Idra would probably have scouted White-Ra, saw that he is behind and tapped out.. Like the true boss he is... It's not the same at all. No, people legitimately believed that the game should've been given to Whitera.
If that would have been the case there would have been around 10-20 pages of Drama.. not 2-3 or whatever it was  .
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Holy shit, 60 000+ viewers for the LOL stream... and I still don't understand what is happening in the game 
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On March 06 2012 19:48 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:43 Velr wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 nokz88 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Full.tilt wrote:On March 06 2012 19:29 nokz88 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Full.tilt wrote:On March 06 2012 19:26 nokz88 wrote:
Idra gets shit on because he leaves a game he thinks he's behind, and the same community demands a loss for MC because he was behind.
You guys are messed up. If that's not double standards I don't know what is. You are insane or high or drunk, maybe all 3. I like your argumentation skills I like the new words you invent. The only comparison between Idra leaving a game and people wanting a win for White RA after a drop is that they were both playing SC2. Idra leaves a game because he thinks there's no way he will win when he's behind. People demanded a loss for MC because he was, guess what, behind. Can't you tell both have the same kind of mentality? Or am I being too logical to argue with a blind fanboi? No, you don't get it. Idra's job is to win and he should damn well try everythign he can and not GG just because he feels unhappy with the ingame situation he got himself into. White-Ra was on the way of soundly beating MC in a Macro game and then Bnet or his Computer denied him the final push. People wanted to see him crush MC and got a little emotional/irrational. It was a clear situation for a regame even tho White-Ra wins that game probably 9 out of 10 times, no one wass seriously calling the regame the "wrong" decision. Btw: With Idra in MC's place this would never have happened, Idra would probably have scouted White-Ra, saw that he is behind and tapped out.. Like the true boss he is... It's not the same at all. No, people legitimately believed that the game should've been given to Whitera.
I still belive that no way MC could have won that when White-ra was up 25 supplie and had +3 while MC had +1.
The upgrades are so huge, White-ra could just a-move and go afk and still win
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On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that.
You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=P
That is not dominant.
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Why didn't JYP opt for an immortal/sentry + some gateway unit push? From a zerg point of view it seems so much scarier than these GW units only push, especially on a map like CK where there are lots of choke points
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On March 06 2012 19:48 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:46 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:35 Full.tilt wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. It was well played by WhiteRa, but MC is objectively better lol. Just imagine when someone says "better player won" they forgot to add "in this series" if you still feel like arguing you are an irrational fanboy because at the end of a series there is a winner and a loser and it's not unreasonable or illogical to describe the winner as the better player. Except it's PvP..>_> Except it is MC and White-ra, two very skilled players. The match up between them requires skill and white-ra played better. He is not usually the better player but in this series he was clearly best.
It show's he's the better PvP player in this series which is basically a meaningless statement. Not only does it not have any bearing on most legitimate mu's like PvT and PvZ but PvP is just a joke of a mu right now. So at the end of the day, it's just PvP...>_>
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Mad group B. Hope for white ra and mc, but may the coins land where they may
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On March 06 2012 19:49 Saaph wrote:
Why didn't JYP opt for an immortal/sentry + some gateway unit push? From a zerg point of view it seems so much scarier than these GW units only push, especially on a map like CK where there are lots of choke points
Maybe a response to the current muta trends? Robo is pretty much death against it.
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United States97277 Posts
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Yep, we are on to the ace match between JYP and Violet 
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On March 06 2012 19:48 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:46 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:35 Full.tilt wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. It was well played by WhiteRa, but MC is objectively better lol. Just imagine when someone says "better player won" they forgot to add "in this series" if you still feel like arguing you are an irrational fanboy because at the end of a series there is a winner and a loser and it's not unreasonable or illogical to describe the winner as the better player. Except it's PvP..>_> Except it is MC and White-ra, two very skilled players. The match up between them requires skill and white-ra played better. He is not usually the better player but in this series he was clearly best.
I agree. Mc is overall the better player for sure. But anyways, Whitera played better in that best of 3 and deserved to win.
Never mind. Mc should be able to advance from this group and hopefully together with whitera.
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On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant.
Yeah, almost a 70% winrate in PvP is not dominant at all. Do you even read the shit you're posting?
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Russian Federation32 Posts
On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. It was well played by WhiteRa, but MC is objectively better lol.
Remember that one of those foreigner tournaments that MC won was a 2 gate cheese vs WhiteRa at the 2-2 score (at the DreamHack Invitational).
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Does the stream (ESL Event 2) lag at times? I can hear the audio but the video lags
The other stream works perfectly for me.
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On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant.
70% is about as dominant as it gets over the course of many games.
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On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant.
70% is pretty damn close to dominant.
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On March 06 2012 19:52 Azzur wrote:
Does the stream (ESL Event 2) lag at times? I can hear the audio but the video lags
The other stream works perfectly for me.
same for me, pretty annoying
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On March 06 2012 19:52 Azzur wrote:
Does the stream (ESL Event 2) lag at times? I can hear the audio but the video lags
The other stream works perfectly for me.
Try watching at max quality, i had the same problems you described at 360p, and they went away at the 540p+.
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On March 06 2012 19:51 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant. Yeah, almost a 70% winrate in PvP is not dominant at all. Do you even read the shit you're posting?
Apparently you don't.
Since November he's won 20 and lost 15.
That is dominant to you? That is the best PvP player in the world in your mind?
The matchup is a joke.
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On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:On March 06 2012 19:30 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:28 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:27 Benjamin80 wrote:
Haha white-ra !!!!
MC got slapped down again luck now Seraphone?
Better player won Well A) It's PvP so anyone can win. B) MC is a far better player than White Ra and his record shows it C) I think MC perhaps gave White Ra the win in the regame. Some very dubious decisions by him in game 4. lol ok It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant.
haha dude as a 3rd person spectating your lame argument, I would suggest that you stop talking to prevent further embarrassment to yourself.
Just sayin bro.
Watch the games and enjoy.
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