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JYP has clearly been learning from incontrol lol
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what the hell did Killer just do....
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Imo, Violet is ahead after that cannon rush  .
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What a ridiculous attack by Killer there...
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lol 90 probes. socke u crazy :D
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Damn, Socke is really sloppy with his Phoenix, if it was MC or Genius, they would have not lost any of them.
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Probably a win for Socke here to tie it up 1-1
pls no more protoss wins 
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Socke chase the mutas with the Phoenix!!!
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On March 06 2012 20:00 Blaec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:57 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:56 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:54 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:51 Fragile51 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:31 Heavenly wrote:
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It is ridiculous for you to claim that WhiteRa is a better player than MC, lol. He put a pylon in MC's base and warped in some zealots, MC wins tons of foreign tournaments, ro8 GSL, etc. He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant. Yeah, almost a 70% winrate in PvP is not dominant at all. Do you even read the shit you're posting? Apparently you don't. Since November he's won 20 and lost 15. That is dominant to you? That is the best PvP player in the world in your mind? The matchup is a joke. Good selective choice of statistics. There are quite a few players that are very good at PvP Choosing recent games that actually matter as opposed to games on Blistering Sands from GSL open seasons is not being selective. It's common sense. Well lets go from halfway through last year if you want to exclude early tournaments, Oh look Elfi still has nearly 70%. So you deliberately chose a period where Elfi had a worse record than his long term record. Do you have a defendable rationale for choosing stats since november?
I chose the period based on current balance. Taking PvP's from the time when you had increased ramp vision, when Archon's were terrible, when everyone four gated, when immortals had lower range etc.. are of no relevance at all. They are meaningless in relation to a current players skill level.
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Sickest foreign ZvP i've seen in quite a while!
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come on socke,finish him!
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On March 06 2012 20:04 Fragile51 wrote:
Sickest foreign ZvP i've seen in quite a while!
What? Killer's play looks quite weak compared to Stephano's, imo
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so many pvp, gonna need these replays
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On March 06 2012 20:03 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 20:00 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:57 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:56 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:54 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:51 Fragile51 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:
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He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant. Yeah, almost a 70% winrate in PvP is not dominant at all. Do you even read the shit you're posting? Apparently you don't. Since November he's won 20 and lost 15. That is dominant to you? That is the best PvP player in the world in your mind? The matchup is a joke. Good selective choice of statistics. There are quite a few players that are very good at PvP Choosing recent games that actually matter as opposed to games on Blistering Sands from GSL open seasons is not being selective. It's common sense. Well lets go from halfway through last year if you want to exclude early tournaments, Oh look Elfi still has nearly 70%. So you deliberately chose a period where Elfi had a worse record than his long term record. Do you have a defendable rationale for choosing stats since november? I chose the period based on current balance. Taking PvP's from the time when you had increased ramp vision, when Archon's were terrible, when everyone four gated, when immortals had lower range etc.. are of no relevance at all. They are meaningless in relation to a current players skill level.
hush. baby. hush.
There there.
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On March 06 2012 20:05 theBALLS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 20:03 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 20:00 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:57 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:56 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:54 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:51 Fragile51 wrote:Yeah, almost a 70% winrate in PvP is not dominant at all. Do you even read the shit you're posting? Apparently you don't. Since November he's won 20 and lost 15. That is dominant to you? That is the best PvP player in the world in your mind? The matchup is a joke. Good selective choice of statistics. There are quite a few players that are very good at PvP Choosing recent games that actually matter as opposed to games on Blistering Sands from GSL open seasons is not being selective. It's common sense. Well lets go from halfway through last year if you want to exclude early tournaments, Oh look Elfi still has nearly 70%. So you deliberately chose a period where Elfi had a worse record than his long term record. Do you have a defendable rationale for choosing stats since november? I chose the period based on current balance. Taking PvP's from the time when you had increased ramp vision, when Archon's were terrible, when everyone four gated, when immortals had lower range etc.. are of no relevance at all. They are meaningless in relation to a current players skill level. hush. baby. hush. There there.
I don't see why you are mocking him? It is a completely different metagame nowadays and you will find almost everyone that used to be considered the best PvPers are doing quite mediocre recently. A lot of victories came from people with superior micro winning four gate wars, or busting out new build orders no one had ever seen.
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Ultimate Deathball there, Colossus+ Storm + Mothership, I don't see how d.Killer can come back from this.
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On March 06 2012 20:03 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 20:00 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:57 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:56 Blaec wrote:On March 06 2012 19:54 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:51 Fragile51 wrote:On March 06 2012 19:49 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:On March 06 2012 19:37 Seraphone wrote:On March 06 2012 19:32 Benjamin80 wrote:
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He was still better in this series and he showed it No he wasn't. It's PvP. It's just a flat out terrible matchup where anyone can win. You know PvP is stupid and luck based because not one player in the world is dominant or even really good at PvP. Not one single player. Every Protoss player loses PvP all the time. Elfi. That's that. You could stand to ignore Bitterdam for a bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1836&part=games&league=standard&vs=PThat is not dominant. Yeah, almost a 70% winrate in PvP is not dominant at all. Do you even read the shit you're posting? Apparently you don't. Since November he's won 20 and lost 15. That is dominant to you? That is the best PvP player in the world in your mind? The matchup is a joke. Good selective choice of statistics. There are quite a few players that are very good at PvP Choosing recent games that actually matter as opposed to games on Blistering Sands from GSL open seasons is not being selective. It's common sense. Well lets go from halfway through last year if you want to exclude early tournaments, Oh look Elfi still has nearly 70%. So you deliberately chose a period where Elfi had a worse record than his long term record. Do you have a defendable rationale for choosing stats since november? I chose the period based on current balance. Taking PvP's from the time when you had increased ramp vision, when Archon's were terrible, when everyone four gated, when immortals had lower range etc.. are of no relevance at all. They are meaningless in relation to a current players skill level.
The patch that changes ramp vision and immortal range hits on August 24. So we set the TPLD since then aaaaand
lo and behold, Elfi still manages to keep 66% win rate.
Its kind of like he is reliably great at PvP and your argument is stupid.
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action packed game versus Killer and Socke. 1:1 now
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EPT
