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On February 27 2012 14:03 haruk wrote:
Well, let's put it this way MKP co-fans, at least Artosis can't jinx him. Hahahaha. GRATZ to MKP!
Wrong sir. Wrong.
Artosis is warlock, he can curse ANYONE.
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Wow only 2 ZvZ series. I'm dissapointed tt.
To make my question a bit more streamlined, I'll ask this: What games occurred that went like:
- ZvP where Toss does a 2 base all-in (colossi on 2 base, mass gate, blink aggression, sg+wg, etc)
- ZvP where Zerg goes 2 base muta
- ZvP where Toss goes FFE and Zerg goes fast third
- ZvP where Zerg gets bane rain
- Good ZvT where Zerg goes fast third
- An Extremely standard ZvT in opening between 2 extremely high level players and a really good game.
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On February 27 2012 14:08 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 14:03 haruk wrote:
Well, let's put it this way MKP co-fans, at least Artosis can't jinx him. Hahahaha. GRATZ to MKP! Wrong sir. Wrong. Artosis is warlock, he can curse ANYONE.
Warlock indeed! Big shoutout to Artosis, my favorite commentator. I think he's definitely the most skilled commentator. Like NonY said, if he was faster and in full training, Artosis could easily be a contender for best player in the world. He loves the game and knows so much, we're so fortunate to have such a great guy bringing us great entertainment!
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On February 27 2012 14:08 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 14:03 haruk wrote:
Well, let's put it this way MKP co-fans, at least Artosis can't jinx him. Hahahaha. GRATZ to MKP! Wrong sir. Wrong. Artosis is warlock, he can curse ANYONE.
He can't curse players he doesn't like, so MKP is safe.
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On February 27 2012 11:16 windsupernova wrote:
Sigh do I need to remind people about this?
On a TL LR thread:
Victory on early game is due to cheese
Victory on mid game is due to N bases all ins
Victory on late game is due to imba
Nobody actually wins a match of starcraft here. They all just cheese, all in or when they actually win its because OP
Brilliant post lol.
Still so stoked for MKP 
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On February 27 2012 14:17 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:16 windsupernova wrote:
Sigh do I need to remind people about this?
On a TL LR thread:
Victory on early game is due to cheese
Victory on mid game is due to N bases all ins
Victory on late game is due to imba
Nobody actually wins a match of starcraft here. They all just cheese, all in or when they actually win its because OP Brilliant post lol. Still so stoked for MKP
damn you dougler!
you peer pressured me into watching this tournament just to watch my poor drg lose.
>: (
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On February 27 2012 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did the new patch changes play an important role in any of the games?
Demuslim did take out Nestea in really long TvZ games. Viking thor looked like the answer to Broodlords with Thors doing well vs ultras as well. Nobody builds ghosts in TvZ from the games in this arena.
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So MLG is a special event outside of the main event - it's a recurring tournament but it's not the primary MLG tournament - so doesn't that mean that Marineking is truly the King of Kong still? (Kongs get seconds while winning the special events)
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On February 27 2012 13:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:On February 27 2012 13:01 Hakkesshu wrote:
To be honest, it was also anticlimatic because Tastosis made it that way. Artosis was talking shit about MKP on his gas and all of a sudden MKP won... that's why everyone was surprised because the caster did a poor job at describing the actual game. Not only that but it seemed that both Artosis/Tasteless were pissed when MKP won... instead of congratulating him, they said nothing. It's like MKP had won but they don't want to give him the prize... WTF.
If it was Rob/JP/Wheat/Doa/Wolf/Khaldor casting, it would have been a lot different since they love MKP.
I don't hate Tastosis but their bias against MKP is so freaking annoying ever since the beginning. And this is more obvious from them, when MKP finally broke the curse. I know exactly what you mean. I can't comment on the atmosphere of the final and the ceremony (or lack thereof) because due to dodgy filtering at work I missed the very end. Its pretty clear that Artosis has never caught on to all of the love the MKP gets for his stylized play style, his sick micro and him just being adorable. Artosis has always loved the players who have a real understanding of the game. Players like Nestea, MVP, MMA, DRG etc. Its quite noticeable in GSL, whenever MKP comes around, they usually have the same copy paste stuff... "He's really solid", "creative builds" bla bla bla. He pretty much crushed through It doesn't usually bother me. Good example would be Ro32 this GSL. He absolutely crushed his way through aLive and Happy easily with really solid play, and he didn't even really get a mention from them. It usually doesn't bother me, but to hear how they acted during and after the final is fairly disappointing. I think they were disappointed in the -bunker rush, bunker rush, bunker rush, c-c-c-combo breaker early 3rd... seems like every fighting game spammer I've played online low, low, low, low, mid MKP did not win a macro game convincingly in this finals...in contrast to MMA at blizzcup.
Look at it this way:
You guys complain about the people who "cheese" saying they have no skills and what not, but what about the opponents that can't even defend bunker rushes, 6 pools, 4gates, etc, strats that "every noobs online can do"? Doesn't that make them even WORST? Hence in the end, the better player still won.
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On February 27 2012 14:34 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 13:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:On February 27 2012 13:01 Hakkesshu wrote:
To be honest, it was also anticlimatic because Tastosis made it that way. Artosis was talking shit about MKP on his gas and all of a sudden MKP won... that's why everyone was surprised because the caster did a poor job at describing the actual game. Not only that but it seemed that both Artosis/Tasteless were pissed when MKP won... instead of congratulating him, they said nothing. It's like MKP had won but they don't want to give him the prize... WTF.
If it was Rob/JP/Wheat/Doa/Wolf/Khaldor casting, it would have been a lot different since they love MKP.
I don't hate Tastosis but their bias against MKP is so freaking annoying ever since the beginning. And this is more obvious from them, when MKP finally broke the curse. I know exactly what you mean. I can't comment on the atmosphere of the final and the ceremony (or lack thereof) because due to dodgy filtering at work I missed the very end. Its pretty clear that Artosis has never caught on to all of the love the MKP gets for his stylized play style, his sick micro and him just being adorable. Artosis has always loved the players who have a real understanding of the game. Players like Nestea, MVP, MMA, DRG etc. Its quite noticeable in GSL, whenever MKP comes around, they usually have the same copy paste stuff... "He's really solid", "creative builds" bla bla bla. He pretty much crushed through It doesn't usually bother me. Good example would be Ro32 this GSL. He absolutely crushed his way through aLive and Happy easily with really solid play, and he didn't even really get a mention from them. It usually doesn't bother me, but to hear how they acted during and after the final is fairly disappointing. I think they were disappointed in the -bunker rush, bunker rush, bunker rush, c-c-c-combo breaker early 3rd... seems like every fighting game spammer I've played online low, low, low, low, mid MKP did not win a macro game convincingly in this finals...in contrast to MMA at blizzcup. Look at it this way: You guys complain about the people who "cheese" saying they have no skills and what not, but what about the opponents that can't even defend bunker rushes, 6 pools, 4gates, etc, strats that "every noobs online can do"? Doesn't that make them even WORST? Hence in the end, the better player still won.
Terrible logic.
There are certain things that are easier to execute than to defend.
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On February 27 2012 14:46 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 14:34 Fubi wrote:On February 27 2012 13:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:On February 27 2012 13:01 Hakkesshu wrote:
To be honest, it was also anticlimatic because Tastosis made it that way. Artosis was talking shit about MKP on his gas and all of a sudden MKP won... that's why everyone was surprised because the caster did a poor job at describing the actual game. Not only that but it seemed that both Artosis/Tasteless were pissed when MKP won... instead of congratulating him, they said nothing. It's like MKP had won but they don't want to give him the prize... WTF.
If it was Rob/JP/Wheat/Doa/Wolf/Khaldor casting, it would have been a lot different since they love MKP.
I don't hate Tastosis but their bias against MKP is so freaking annoying ever since the beginning. And this is more obvious from them, when MKP finally broke the curse. I know exactly what you mean. I can't comment on the atmosphere of the final and the ceremony (or lack thereof) because due to dodgy filtering at work I missed the very end. Its pretty clear that Artosis has never caught on to all of the love the MKP gets for his stylized play style, his sick micro and him just being adorable. Artosis has always loved the players who have a real understanding of the game. Players like Nestea, MVP, MMA, DRG etc. Its quite noticeable in GSL, whenever MKP comes around, they usually have the same copy paste stuff... "He's really solid", "creative builds" bla bla bla. He pretty much crushed through It doesn't usually bother me. Good example would be Ro32 this GSL. He absolutely crushed his way through aLive and Happy easily with really solid play, and he didn't even really get a mention from them. It usually doesn't bother me, but to hear how they acted during and after the final is fairly disappointing. I think they were disappointed in the -bunker rush, bunker rush, bunker rush, c-c-c-combo breaker early 3rd... seems like every fighting game spammer I've played online low, low, low, low, mid MKP did not win a macro game convincingly in this finals...in contrast to MMA at blizzcup. Look at it this way: You guys complain about the people who "cheese" saying they have no skills and what not, but what about the opponents that can't even defend bunker rushes, 6 pools, 4gates, etc, strats that "every noobs online can do"? Doesn't that make them even WORST? Hence in the end, the better player still won. Terrible logic. There are certain things that are easier to execute than to defend.
Point is, everyone at the pro level should be able to defend against the typical cheeses (6pool, 4gate, 2rax bunker) if you are prepared for it; if you die to it, it is solely your own fault for lack of scouting, preparation, or you took a gamble and got greedy. If you can't even defend those typical cheese at the pro level, then you are NOT better than your opponent, period.
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On February 27 2012 14:58 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 14:46 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 14:34 Fubi wrote:On February 27 2012 13:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:On February 27 2012 13:01 Hakkesshu wrote:
To be honest, it was also anticlimatic because Tastosis made it that way. Artosis was talking shit about MKP on his gas and all of a sudden MKP won... that's why everyone was surprised because the caster did a poor job at describing the actual game. Not only that but it seemed that both Artosis/Tasteless were pissed when MKP won... instead of congratulating him, they said nothing. It's like MKP had won but they don't want to give him the prize... WTF.
If it was Rob/JP/Wheat/Doa/Wolf/Khaldor casting, it would have been a lot different since they love MKP.
I don't hate Tastosis but their bias against MKP is so freaking annoying ever since the beginning. And this is more obvious from them, when MKP finally broke the curse. I know exactly what you mean. I can't comment on the atmosphere of the final and the ceremony (or lack thereof) because due to dodgy filtering at work I missed the very end. Its pretty clear that Artosis has never caught on to all of the love the MKP gets for his stylized play style, his sick micro and him just being adorable. Artosis has always loved the players who have a real understanding of the game. Players like Nestea, MVP, MMA, DRG etc. Its quite noticeable in GSL, whenever MKP comes around, they usually have the same copy paste stuff... "He's really solid", "creative builds" bla bla bla. He pretty much crushed through It doesn't usually bother me. Good example would be Ro32 this GSL. He absolutely crushed his way through aLive and Happy easily with really solid play, and he didn't even really get a mention from them. It usually doesn't bother me, but to hear how they acted during and after the final is fairly disappointing. I think they were disappointed in the -bunker rush, bunker rush, bunker rush, c-c-c-combo breaker early 3rd... seems like every fighting game spammer I've played online low, low, low, low, mid MKP did not win a macro game convincingly in this finals...in contrast to MMA at blizzcup. Look at it this way: You guys complain about the people who "cheese" saying they have no skills and what not, but what about the opponents that can't even defend bunker rushes, 6 pools, 4gates, etc, strats that "every noobs online can do"? Doesn't that make them even WORST? Hence in the end, the better player still won. Terrible logic. There are certain things that are easier to execute than to defend. Point is, everyone at the pro level should be able to defend against the typical cheeses (6pool, 4gate, 2rax bunker) if you are prepared for it; if you die to it, it is solely your own fault for lack of scouting, preparation, or you took a gamble and got greedy. If you can't even defend those typical cheese at the pro level, then you are NOT better than your opponent, period.
You don't understand this game
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On February 27 2012 15:00 SappingCastles wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 14:58 Fubi wrote:On February 27 2012 14:46 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 14:34 Fubi wrote:On February 27 2012 13:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:On February 27 2012 13:01 Hakkesshu wrote:
To be honest, it was also anticlimatic because Tastosis made it that way. Artosis was talking shit about MKP on his gas and all of a sudden MKP won... that's why everyone was surprised because the caster did a poor job at describing the actual game. Not only that but it seemed that both Artosis/Tasteless were pissed when MKP won... instead of congratulating him, they said nothing. It's like MKP had won but they don't want to give him the prize... WTF.
If it was Rob/JP/Wheat/Doa/Wolf/Khaldor casting, it would have been a lot different since they love MKP.
I don't hate Tastosis but their bias against MKP is so freaking annoying ever since the beginning. And this is more obvious from them, when MKP finally broke the curse. I know exactly what you mean. I can't comment on the atmosphere of the final and the ceremony (or lack thereof) because due to dodgy filtering at work I missed the very end. Its pretty clear that Artosis has never caught on to all of the love the MKP gets for his stylized play style, his sick micro and him just being adorable. Artosis has always loved the players who have a real understanding of the game. Players like Nestea, MVP, MMA, DRG etc. Its quite noticeable in GSL, whenever MKP comes around, they usually have the same copy paste stuff... "He's really solid", "creative builds" bla bla bla. He pretty much crushed through It doesn't usually bother me. Good example would be Ro32 this GSL. He absolutely crushed his way through aLive and Happy easily with really solid play, and he didn't even really get a mention from them. It usually doesn't bother me, but to hear how they acted during and after the final is fairly disappointing. I think they were disappointed in the -bunker rush, bunker rush, bunker rush, c-c-c-combo breaker early 3rd... seems like every fighting game spammer I've played online low, low, low, low, mid MKP did not win a macro game convincingly in this finals...in contrast to MMA at blizzcup. Look at it this way: You guys complain about the people who "cheese" saying they have no skills and what not, but what about the opponents that can't even defend bunker rushes, 6 pools, 4gates, etc, strats that "every noobs online can do"? Doesn't that make them even WORST? Hence in the end, the better player still won. Terrible logic. There are certain things that are easier to execute than to defend. Point is, everyone at the pro level should be able to defend against the typical cheeses (6pool, 4gate, 2rax bunker) if you are prepared for it; if you die to it, it is solely your own fault for lack of scouting, preparation, or you took a gamble and got greedy. If you can't even defend those typical cheese at the pro level, then you are NOT better than your opponent, period. You don't understand this game
nah, I think he does bro.
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On February 27 2012 14:29 McFeser wrote:
So MLG is a special event outside of the main event - it's a recurring tournament but it's not the primary MLG tournament - so doesn't that mean that Marineking is truly the King of Kong still? (Kongs get seconds while winning the special events)
pretty much lol. its funny because winning this then getting second in a future GSL, MLG pro circuit tournament, or IEM just solidifies him as the sc2 kong
kongs win special events. yellow was known as the king of special events
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I guess this does qualify as a special event, since it is invitationals only.
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On February 27 2012 15:10 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I guess this does qualify as a special event, since it is invitationals only.
getting invited from a qualifier means invitations only now?
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I don't think MKP is happy until he scores a GSL win. MLG is peanuts compared to that.
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On February 27 2012 15:27 Bagi wrote:
I don't think MKP is happy until he scores a GSL win. MLG is peanuts compared to that.
MKP isn't skilled enough to win GSL.
Lettuce be serious: he can't play a highest-level macro game.
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On February 27 2012 14:58 Fubi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 14:46 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 14:34 Fubi wrote:On February 27 2012 13:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:On February 27 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:On February 27 2012 13:01 Hakkesshu wrote:
To be honest, it was also anticlimatic because Tastosis made it that way. Artosis was talking shit about MKP on his gas and all of a sudden MKP won... that's why everyone was surprised because the caster did a poor job at describing the actual game. Not only that but it seemed that both Artosis/Tasteless were pissed when MKP won... instead of congratulating him, they said nothing. It's like MKP had won but they don't want to give him the prize... WTF.
If it was Rob/JP/Wheat/Doa/Wolf/Khaldor casting, it would have been a lot different since they love MKP.
I don't hate Tastosis but their bias against MKP is so freaking annoying ever since the beginning. And this is more obvious from them, when MKP finally broke the curse. I know exactly what you mean. I can't comment on the atmosphere of the final and the ceremony (or lack thereof) because due to dodgy filtering at work I missed the very end. Its pretty clear that Artosis has never caught on to all of the love the MKP gets for his stylized play style, his sick micro and him just being adorable. Artosis has always loved the players who have a real understanding of the game. Players like Nestea, MVP, MMA, DRG etc. Its quite noticeable in GSL, whenever MKP comes around, they usually have the same copy paste stuff... "He's really solid", "creative builds" bla bla bla. He pretty much crushed through It doesn't usually bother me. Good example would be Ro32 this GSL. He absolutely crushed his way through aLive and Happy easily with really solid play, and he didn't even really get a mention from them. It usually doesn't bother me, but to hear how they acted during and after the final is fairly disappointing. I think they were disappointed in the -bunker rush, bunker rush, bunker rush, c-c-c-combo breaker early 3rd... seems like every fighting game spammer I've played online low, low, low, low, mid MKP did not win a macro game convincingly in this finals...in contrast to MMA at blizzcup. Look at it this way: You guys complain about the people who "cheese" saying they have no skills and what not, but what about the opponents that can't even defend bunker rushes, 6 pools, 4gates, etc, strats that "every noobs online can do"? Doesn't that make them even WORST? Hence in the end, the better player still won. Terrible logic. There are certain things that are easier to execute than to defend. Point is, everyone at the pro level should be able to defend against the typical cheeses (6pool, 4gate, 2rax bunker) if you are prepared for it; if you die to it, it is solely your own fault for lack of scouting, preparation, or you took a gamble and got greedy. If you can't even defend those typical cheese at the pro level, then you are NOT better than your opponent, period.
typical cheeses are not so in atypical hands.
and like the other guy said..
There are certain things that are easier to execute than to defend.
So again "terrible logic" or to put it less colorfully.. you're wrong.
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On February 27 2012 15:20 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 15:10 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I guess this does qualify as a special event, since it is invitationals only. getting invited from a qualifier means invitations only now?
the qualifiers themselves were invitations only.
Destiny didn't get an invite
neither did spanishiwa.
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