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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:42 Seeker wrote:On February 08 2012 20:41 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:39 Seeker wrote:On February 08 2012 20:38 ramon wrote:On February 08 2012 20:33 Fishgle wrote:On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:
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Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs? Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.> Ravens are Gems, obviously. stop going on these tangents in LR threads hassybaby and drazerk please, it's getting more and more annoying if a conversation is only between 2 persons and doesnt amount to anything useful for anyone else, it should be private 2nded. We made the LR crew in Skype PRECISELY for this reason u know.... EDIT: should throw Zhurai in there nnn NO ONE SHOULD KNOW MY SKYPEEEE actually I'll message you it although at nights I wouldn't be able to talk, and would just type though so... >___> Just PM it to me If seeker asks for your credit card info don't do it!!
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y the hell not? It's not like I'd go around buying oGs brand products/TL brand products/EG brand products/running up a MASSIVE bill :/
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On February 08 2012 20:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:34 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 20:32 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:29 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 20:25 WigglingSquid wrote:On February 08 2012 20:21 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 WigglingSquid wrote:Poor GanZi. Just dying to every small early or mid-game timing in this group... On February 08 2012 20:12 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:09 WigglingSquid wrote:On February 08 2012 20:02 Xarles wrote:
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Agreed. Not to mention that he gives proper reasoning towards his opinions as opposed to someone like IdrA.
I'll take that over an attention seeking no-name whiner any day. The problem is that pros play their game twelve hours a day, but communicate very little about it with people who are not on their par. They walk in a forum, scribble two sentences without any reasoning or explanation whatsoever and complain when users disrespect their opinion, expecting everyone to merely bow to their experience out of sheer faith. I respect their opinion, and I agree that the TL forums can be a dangerous place for their peace of mind, but even if they don't feel like taking their time to explain they could avoid bashing just by being more subtle with their balance whine. (Nothing exotic. Just add "in the current metagame" to every complaint and no one will be able to tell it off as easily.) I think MorroW very obviously put forward his case as to why a build shouldn't allow you to get ahead both economically and in army. Yes, but he did so after his first post; anyway, I was not talking about MorroW specifically, but of the pros' general attitude. I will take their opinion as almost granted in most cases, but if they go to the length of being arrogant I will be much less adamant about defending them. No he didn't. What the hell man. he explained perfectly well why this strat is imabalanced. Just because you can't grasp this simple concept doesn't mean that he didn't explain it, it just means that you simply don't understand what he's talking about. which is a problem on your end not his. If you don't understand the game, then don't discuss it. sick of noobs complaining about people who "dont explain it well enough" this isn't pre-school dude, if you dont understand it you simply dont know enough about SC2 or RTS games in general. I am not an idiot. I might have missed his true first post, or you might have. Please refrain from jumping on the offense before considering other options. And here it is. You are quite wrong, because this does not explain absolutely anything: just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers
if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say
you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it Yes, it does? You can take 3 base get an economic advantage and kill the terran at the same time without being "all-in" even if he has bunkers up pretty much is imbalanced. Just like Morrow said. How can you possibly argue that this is balanced? this goes against the very nature of rts games. Terran can do the exact same thing to protoss and zerg lmao. Reactor hellion into third base gives terran a third base before zerg, and quick third command center is also becoming very popular for terrans versus protoss. There was a game, maybe with Puzzle, where super quick third CC held off a four gate. Hellion expand isn't a kill-move though?! And what TvP build lets you push off 2 base while taking an early third with the potential to kill the protoss? I would love to see that build. The concepts are completely different. The terran build in TvZ is a pressure build, not a kill-move and I really don't know what the mysterious TvP build is you are talking about. Mm, Terran can do 1 rax cc-> cc -> cc (or even No rax -> cc - > rax -> cc on some maps) and that will put them in a very strong position vs 1 gate nex. It's not as drastic as 1 gate -> 3 nex, but it exists.
I get that, but yet again. That is a completely different concept because you don't get ahead economically and kill your opponent at the same time. I don't know I feel like I'm having two different conversations with everybody here.
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United States97276 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:44 Scribble wrote:
For the first time this season my predictions are going perfectly. Just need Parting to beat Jjakji.
Same here. I did so well last season. This season... not so much. I keep ending up with the same picks as Fionn >.>
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:42 Drazerk wrote:Game One on Cloud Kingdom In the bottom left is  Parting In the top right is  JJakji
6:30
Robo from Parting
Stim and engineering bay from JJakji
Small engagements in the middle between a marine and a stalker
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Should be interesting to see which build Parting goes for this time.
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On February 08 2012 20:44 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:42 Seeker wrote:On February 08 2012 20:41 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:39 Seeker wrote:On February 08 2012 20:38 ramon wrote:On February 08 2012 20:33 Fishgle wrote:On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
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Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs? Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.> Ravens are Gems, obviously. stop going on these tangents in LR threads hassybaby and drazerk please, it's getting more and more annoying if a conversation is only between 2 persons and doesnt amount to anything useful for anyone else, it should be private 2nded. We made the LR crew in Skype PRECISELY for this reason u know.... EDIT: should throw Zhurai in there nnn NO ONE SHOULD KNOW MY SKYPEEEE actually I'll message you it although at nights I wouldn't be able to talk, and would just type though so... >___> Just PM it to me If seeker asks for your credit card info don't do it!! -__-;; y the hell not? It's not like I'd go around buying oGs brand products/TL brand products/EG brand products/running up a MASSIVE bill :/
if I had the money I'd buy them myself in the first place
alas I'm poor.
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On February 08 2012 20:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:44 Scribble wrote:
For the first time this season my predictions are going perfectly. Just need Parting to beat Jjakji. Same here. I did so well last season. This season... not so much. I keep ending up with the same picks as Fionn >.>
I know your pain man... I know it.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:45 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:42 Drazerk wrote:Game One on Cloud Kingdom In the bottom left is Parting In the top right is JJakji
6:30Robo from Parting Stim and engineering bay from JJakji Small engagements in the middle between a marine and a stalker
7:30
Forge on the way for Parting along with an observer first
Factory and reactor for JJakji along with bio +1
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Switzerland2892 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:43 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Mc will take this title! For the Sad Zealot!!
I want a happy zealot if MC wins
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:39 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:38 ramon wrote:On February 08 2012 20:33 Fishgle wrote:On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
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Medivacs are more like nature's attendance than dazzle's heal. More over time than instant also they don't kill everything at the same time oh thanks for the idea ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL Stalkers are anti mages! Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs? Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.> Ravens are Gems, obviously. stop going on these tangents in LR threads hassybaby and drazerk please, it's getting more and more annoying if a conversation is only between 2 persons and doesnt amount to anything useful for anyone else, it should be private 2nded. We made the LR crew in Skype PRECISELY for this reason u know.... EDIT: should throw Zhurai in there
We make the Skype group so we stop having 30 odd PMs between each other a day
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Yes, MC leaving oGs has ruined everything for him.
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Storm not out yet, but Jjakji isn't attacking in this window.
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Anyway, as for this game, I think Parting is in a good position to hold off this push fairly easily.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:39 Seeker wrote:On February 08 2012 20:38 ramon wrote:On February 08 2012 20:33 Fishgle wrote:On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:
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oh thanks for the idea
ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL Stalkers are anti mages! Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs? Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.> Ravens are Gems, obviously. stop going on these tangents in LR threads hassybaby and drazerk please, it's getting more and more annoying if a conversation is only between 2 persons and doesnt amount to anything useful for anyone else, it should be private 2nded. We made the LR crew in Skype PRECISELY for this reason u know.... EDIT: should throw Zhurai in there We make the Skype group so we stop having 30 odd PMs between each other a day
odd? I believe the word you're looking for is FANFUCKINGTASTIC!!!
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Jjakji not playing his usual level today. Usually you just can't send an observer in his base, he'll insta spot and kill it.
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This is the more standard build I've seen out of parting.
Fast tc and many obs.
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United States97276 Posts
Forgetting charge :/ Not good
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On February 08 2012 20:46 pPingu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:43 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Mc will take this title! For the Sad Zealot!! I want a happy zealot if MC wins
The zealot is apparantly always sad on TL... even when they perform better than Zerg.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:45 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:42 Drazerk wrote:Game One on Cloud Kingdom In the bottom left is Parting In the top right is JJakji
6:30Robo from Parting Stim and engineering bay from JJakji Small engagements in the middle between a marine and a stalker
7:30
Forge on the way for Parting along with an observer first Factory and reactor for JJakji along with bio +1
10:30
Armour +1 for parting finishes while getting archons and more gateways but he forgot charge
2/1 on the way for JJakji along with more barracks
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