EPTOn February 08 2012 20:23 Seeker wrote:
GanZi meching? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT!?!?
GanZi meching? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT!?!?
possibly a raven
[GSL] 2012 Season 1 Code S Ro16 Group C - Page 100
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
possibly a raven | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:20 Hassybaby wrote: But that would mean one of the secret hops would basically be in Jjakji's base, and the other sort of where the north gas geyser is on the base north of Ganzi's main How is that fair? Jjakji so has this since he can buy himself a Reaver in his base! JJakji won the first game giving him the advantage clearly. | ||
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RudePlague
Great Britain113 Posts
It's not really "first day" though. It's a known build. Just because it's the first time it's happened in GSL doesn't mean all the casters haven't been talking about it in every Korean Weekly / every previous round of GSL this season or that the players haven't seen it on ladder. It's not even the first time it's been used in the GSL this season, I've seen it on at least two other occasions that I remember, but it is a fairly new style which will take some figuring out. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:18 Heavenly wrote: He said it a while ago when the maps became larger and made early terran pushes much weaker. Yeah you and 3 other people say this now so i believe it. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38205 Posts
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Griffith`
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congrats on your 1337 post ROFL | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:23 Seeker wrote: GanZi meching? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT!?!? i always thought Ganzi was one of the mech-ing-er terrans? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
With mantas! | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:23 Drazerk wrote: JJakji won the first game giving him the advantage clearly. He had the Dazzle-medivac on his side. Damn that shallow grave | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
The LR guidebook A basic guide book on how to survive the SC2 Live report threads while getting the obscure references we make which you also will be able to make with this handy guidebook making you "one of the cool kids" The 10 commandments 1. Thou shalt build ravens 2. Thou shalt actually hype events and turn up to the events instead of failing 3. Thou shalt not balance whine 4. Thou shalt actually use your oversears to halt supply instead of leaving them in your base on full energy doing nothing all game long and then having 9 in your final army while floating 4k gas ready for the remax. 5. Thou shalt watch the KSL and EWM 6. Thou shalt spam pm seeker 7. Thou shalt enjoy the LR community and actually engage in conversation and socialise 8. Thou shalt kill roshan at level 1 every single dota game because you can. 9. Thou shalt compare any technical fault in any tournament to MLG dallas or NASL season 1 10. Thou shalt LR every single sc2 game ever instead of drazerk because he is rather lazy - joke - Thou shalt derail LR threads with talks of WoW - joke- Thou shalt bash the NASL and be mean to Idra The raven rule and curses The raven rule ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/6/66/Raven.png/200px-Raven.png) The raven. The best unit in the game bar non. Capable of seeing cloaked units saving the Terran money on scans which will ALWAYS pay off in the long run no matter what the match up. In TvT it has the possibility of tanking Marauders / Viking attacks to save your superior mech army or to use the auto turret as defence or even as a rush / harassment. In TvP it crushes players like Parting who build 17 observers every game while PDD is universally awesome. In TvZ it is the bane of Seal clearing up his creep instantly while absorbing ALL ranged attacks bar the infested terran how awesome its that? The raven is always a good unit to build no matter what the siutation is. In the LR thread there is the raven rule regarding players who build the raven. 1. The player who builds the raven will win the game 2. If both players build a raven anyone can win the game and it will be labbeled as an epic game 3. If any player builds a battlecruiser the first rule is made void ( This rule was forced into action by boxer who insisted on building battlecruisers losing him a won game ) 4. If a player supply blocks a raven and they are not in the red they will probably lose the game. 5. If you lose the raven you go to a special hell reserved for child molesters and people who speak at the theatre + Show Spoiler [Nerdy Firefly reference] + The Fionn curse Fionn used to predict who would win each day in the GSL threads normally in the first day or two and people would presume he was right and trust him with their liquibet. However this was a trap as Fionn turned out to be a wizard of the dark arts and who ever he predicts to win the game will end up losing. Several people have managed to escape the curse through the use of the raven rule or the power of artosis hype or clear magic but in general if Fionn ever says someone is going to win vote otherwhys. Artosis Curse Artosis is an excitable child who casts GSL code S with his Co-Caster Tasteless however Artosis has the power to infuse his pure hype into a player which causes it to mutate into a curse and lose often losing horribly. This is mainly seen with CLIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEE a player so infused by Artosis hype that after joining slayers he has fallen off the side of earth falling to code B and losing constantly in other korean tournaments. The power of Artosis hype has also managed to effect an entire build known as the Mech curse which causes any player to go mech to have a very large chance of the player failing. The Hassy and Con Duo curse On the finals of the Blizzard cup at the end of 2011 Hassy and Con used match and map statisitics to try and be smart arses and predict the individual results of each map they played on. However things went south and they got every single map result wrong starting the Hassy and Con duo curse. They have tried this several other times yielding the same results finalizing it as an official curse. The Seeker curse Lets face it his curse doesn't exist. But if it did it would be who ever he puts in the Original post for the live report thread will lose their games and fall out of their group / the entire tournament. The exception to the suggested curse is MC so as said earlier this curse is only a myth and doesn't really exist. The LR Crew ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/107918.jpg?1326221691) The full group of us who take an active part in Live report threads ( well the GSL ones at any rate ) The picture is missing Asha, Blind, Fionn and King Mainly because they would not send in pictures and mainly because we forgot to ask some of them. The group later made a skype conversation which is mythed to have been created to stop me and hassy derailing Live report threads but in reality was only created to stop us wasting time sending the same message to four seperate people. Seeker He has a fan club... Wait why don't I have a fan club? For those of you who live under a rock seeker currently does the GSL threads after he moved up the ranks murdering Mr Con for his code S threads. He also does the LR after I left but uses his own style that we continuously argue over. Seeker is really excitable ( especially when it comes to him finally reachind masters and the running of team Air) At first I believed him to be a small child which was later myth busted. Seeker also is the hardest of the group to ever contact because despite not sleeping he refuses to check his TL inbox or ever log into skype however when he does it is always with the same sort of message - 10124 new messages!? wtf! omg so many new messages xD 217 NEW MESSAGES?!?!?! YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP TALKING ( He is really anti social ) I get 1204203482 messages a day I wake up with 5000 messages U GUYS TALK TOO MUCH BEST FUCKING GROUP EVER MORE SPAM!? !!!!!!!!! YOU GUYS SPEAK TOO MUCH The Kraken's Daughter Sister to Theon Greyjoy the ward of winterfell who no one ever noticed in the tv series even though he is probably one of the best characters in the books and hopefully his Redacted to Redacted and the Redacted with the Redacted will be Redacted. Really there isn't a lot you can talk about without spoiling the series so we will focus on what Asha actually does on TL which normally adding a sort of sensible train of thought to the thread while recapping us on what happens in the game should we miss it. She is also a coward and never plays Dota 2 with anyone because she has higher ladder fear than a copper player to further prove she is a coward she is the only person to not give fishuu a picture and so did not appear in the EPIC LR group picture. Hassybaby Well hassan used to be the GSL stat person... until GSL actually employed someone to do their stats for them putting him out of work. He now trolls the LR threads seeking to derail the thread ( See the Great WoW derailment of december 20th ) Hassy also is enthusiastic about Dota but has a horrible connection and d/cs midway through games causing us to lose more games than not ( Although if you need an enigma or weaver I guess he is ok ) I mean really look how much he references Enigma in our skype alone - there have been some fucking massive black holes this game black hole is the greatest ability ever I need a black hole button for vortex black hole...cmon.... because my Black Hole is brutal black hole + morgana ult would be so fun LOL Black Hole + Epicentre black hole shouting too ALL those deaths bar 1 was from Black Hole casts dat black hole BLACK HOOOOLLLLE black hole dawg this is the equivalent to jumping under a ladder after a black hole got you, only to step and break a mirror He also loves gingers and they can shackel him to a tree anytime. Mr con Mr con was the person who did LR threads before seeker came along. If you are ever being held against your will by a MR con Doppleganger and the real con gets into a fight with him you will be able to tell the difference between them by asking the following question - how do you hold of 2 rax as protoss? The one who answers stalkers is the real con. Con also plays a LOT of other games ranging from his JRPGS to winning with me on dota with our epic Ursa/SK lv 1 roshan cheese (provided the other team doesn't rage quit first). Con is also a big fan of me but I can't figure out why... [Edited by drazerk, 17:10:59] Mr Con: you should feed his quest for power [Edited by drazerk, 17:11:07] Mr Con: he is a really nice guy Mr Con: YOU SEE ? YOU SEE ? Drazerk I basically took up the mantle of doing every single LR for every single tournament ever for a few months racking up 20k posts in half a year before giving up and going into hiding only live reporting when the gods demand it. Also a wild fanatic of the raven and starter of the Raven rule I praise anyone who uses the unit and should be forced upon Terrans. I couldn't really find a common skype message I post a lot so here is the reaction to alive starting to build a raven when I picked MMA for the liquibet - drazerk: NO drazerk: GOD NO drazerk: WHY Mr Con: ALIVE HAHA Asha: o_O Asha: what have i missed Mr Con: nothing at all drazerk: Fuck lol Virgil His use in LR threads basically consists of him mass promotes KSL and EWM in threads (WHICH YOU SHOULD WATCH) and the managing of Team clash while occasionally telling us what is going on in the korean scene.If you see him in a thread and he is speaking about something you don't know about it is probably true and you should just take his word for it (Unless he is saying TSL will win the GSTL then you should just anti vote them like the rest of us do) Blind Well I would write a section for blind but to be honest he won't join our Skype convo so I don't know him as well as the other people so here is a ton of references to him from our skype convo you can play games to work out who said what (The prize is a night with Seeker provided you pay and bring him home by 7). we need Blind.... I should call Blind out publically now gotta ask king and blind Blind is such a tease Blind really needs to get on here He would have a dota key had he been here King He does the pictures for the GSL and makes witty comments when appropriate. You should thank him for his hard work because we realized we really don't do it enough. I would make a witty joke about the xXx but Asha stole it. Asha: what's not SFW about saying he's into xXx and taking screencaps of young korean males? Player Terms The Clide factor CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEE is a player of pure artosis hype. Hyped to such maginitude that he is doomed to fail. Because of all the hype he must be referred to as CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEEEE when ever possible. The more emphasis the better. Just calling him Clide will probably result in Artosis dying inside. The Ryung factor The Lonely slayers terran who is always in the shadow of the much better MMA. Ryung unable to actually stand out in the scene must always be refered to as worse than MMA when ever he plays while saying MMA would of held off that attack better or MMA would of killed him earlier. Always compare Ryung to MMA even if the situation does not call for it. For example - Ryung is really bad at listening to Gee compared to MMA The JYP factor Yeah this guy can't win vs terran. Never. Oh he won vs terran? no that was another player pretending to be that player and playing terran so JYP had the advantage. JYP should never beat a real terran ever. The Byun factor He has a puppy and thus should be refered to as Puppykingprime rather than his new handle of ghostkingprime. The puppy must always be referred to as the cutest thing in Esports. The Idra factor Idra will always GG when he is winning the game. Without exception some times he will feel mercy on his opponent and GG early allowing them to take the game however this only happens if they accidently kill their own command centre. Other korean pros have tried to replicate the Idra factor in other opponents however they are not as kind as idra and do not just GG because their opponent killed their own command centre. Despite training in a secret base owned by slayers if Idra loses a game to terran cheese he is very likely to tilt and will proceed to throw away the series causing fan drama as they see him as the last foreign hope despite him being sub par for a while now. The Incontrol factor He will NEVER win a game. If he does win a game it must be because something was wrong with his opponent or he did a cheese or an all in build and did not deserve the win. "Incontrol shouldn't win a game" if the common belief and is an EXCELENT ban trap when it comes to people jumping on the bandwagon and flaming him. When it comes to incontrol its best to stay far away and just praise him when he does well like the rest of us. The Supernova factor This player used to be a god making a raven every game and dominating in the team leagues and in the opening rounds of season 1 GSL code S 2012 however recently he has stopped building ravens after losing in Code S turning his back on the raven rule and becoming mortal as a result supernova is dead to me and is just another random korean terran well until he starts building ravens again... The July factor No matter how badly July cheeses someone or does a horrible build that makes no sense while calling your mother names July must be loved by all. No one can not love July it is actually impossible. You must also reference how cute he is at the start and end of every game. The Parting factor He wears glasses... First hyped by Mr Con Fionn saw what Con was doing by claiming a player for himself and jumped on the bandwagon becoming his greatest fan just to steal Mr Con's thunder. Parting is also known for building a ton of observers which should be countered by ravens but never are. The Seal factor He builds creep. The Bit By Bit factor Pulling any amount of scvs in an attack will be chanted by going all in bit by bit but never a full all in and not even a Naama train which would be more acceptable really it is just to soften your actual units with scvs The Naama factor NAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIN EVERYDAY! The Naama train consists of pulling EVERY scv with every attack you do but not half assed like Bit by Bit. Please be aware despite the pulling of all scvs the naama train is NOT an all in. Naama really likes trains... The Best factor The best has the best banshee control in Esports. Known as the villan of esports the best has the ability to possess players and take control of their banshees purposely killing them by running them into marines, missile towers or flying sharks. The best is universally hated because of his run in the super tournament and banshee genocide. The Naniwa factor This guy is the ass hole of esports constantly being mean and showing a clear lack of sportsmanship. The phrase "Doing a Naniwa" refers to just worker rushing which he did as a rage quit method during the blizzard cup. When approaching Naniwa it is probably best to legally change your name from Chill or risk being told to GET OUT but don't worry everything will be "Ok" The TL v EG factor TL is all the good in the world while EG is all the bad in the world should TL lose to EG in any way shape or form the planet fall into chaos killing us all as evil will finally win even if it is simply a show match or a random Bo3 at the start of a tournament. EG is always evil no matter what. Also any TL player MUST be routed for in each tournament no matter how much they are out match and all statistics point to them losing because there is always that small chance they will pull out a miracle and win. The Foreigner factor All foreigners are from USA no matter where they actually come from. especially stephano when ever he plays you must chant USA three times after his name just to show how much of an american hero he is. When participating in the GSL a foreigner will always lose their game with no exceptions giving easy liquibet points to everyone. LR Terms Cheese When Roshan is killed for the third time he drops an item called cheese. cheese restores 2500hp and 1000 mana instantly to yourself or an ally or it can be sold for 500 gold if you are dominating too much to be bothered using it or have a team consisting of 5 support healers. In SC2 Cheese is any build that requires a lack of scouting from the opponent to suceed and often refered to as a coin flip Economic Cheese When a player builds three bases before their first unit and never scouts. Coin flip When a player flips a coin to see what build they will do. All in All in is probably the most over used term in Starcraft. An all in is where you kill every single one of your own buildings while consturcting a supply depot / pylon in the main of your oppenent. For zerg they build a proxy extractor as close the enemy base as possibly. Ideally inside the enemy main. When all of this has been done the Player then pulls all their scvs and A moves into the opponent without the use of micro. If any micro is used the attack is NOT an all in. All ins are the rarest thing in Esports and shouldn't be tarnished by things that are really not all ins. Economic All in Never building a unit maxing out on 200 workers then mining out the entire map and winning because you have the most resources and your opponent can not get any more. The great WoW derailment of 20/12/11 A horribly boring game with no one interesting player. Hassy made a reference to the flowers in the inside bases natural which was quoted by Elem who said they looked like Mountain silversages ( A common flower in WoW which is pretty easy to farm but needed in a lot of recipes ) From that one reference we had a 70 page discussion on WoW only being stopped by Pholon who had no idea what was going on. It is a fun read even if you have no idea what WoW is an shows how great the LR community can really be when we are not busy balance whining because protoss is OP and deserve to be nerfed. The start of the derailment] The sad conclusion Seeker also promises us a Code A WoW themed day but we will never see it because Seeker is lazy. Actual useful things... This will be updated randomly when I think of more terms or something happens possibly Asha actually giving Fishuu her picture. Also thanks to the LR crew who proof read it and to Bergson who gave me a Dota 2 key | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Well they already have a mask of madness.... | ||
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artrea
Latvia3560 Posts
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:21 ChaosTerran wrote: No he didn't. What the hell man. he explained perfectly well why this strat is imabalanced. Just because you can't grasp this simple concept doesn't mean that he didn't explain it, it just means that you simply don't understand what he's talking about. which is a problem on your end not his. If you don't understand the game, then don't discuss it. sick of noobs complaining about people who "dont explain it well enough" this isn't pre-school dude, if you dont understand it you simply dont know enough about SC2 or RTS games in general. I am not an idiot. I might have missed his true first post, or you might have. Please refrain from jumping on the offense before considering other options. And here it is. You are quite wrong, because this does not explain absolutely anything: just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him. well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute. anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
Marine - Ranged First skill: shoot (insta refresh) second skill: stim 3rd skill: combat shields - shield for a short amount of time ulti: ????????????????? :S | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
When you troll well, no one will realise you've done it at all  As I said, do not like this build by Ganzi. He's just about getting away with it since Jjakji hasn't seen his hidden third but that was a complete coin flip. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37022 Posts
Somewhere in skype, Drazerk just sneezed | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:17 Drazerk wrote: 8:10 Stim on the way for JJakji with a tank advantage over the mech player of Ganzi who is getting two more factories Another base on the way for JJakji as siege tech finishes for both players. 15:00 Hellions moving around the map for Ganzi trying to attack the third of Jjakji but is taken out by a small marauder force before it can kill any scvs JJakji is containing ganzi but is spreading it out too thinly allowing ganzi to move out with his tanks | ||
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Shellshock
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