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On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok"
I dont....
>.>
actually seem to remember MVP saying that?
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On February 08 2012 20:14 randomdude123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? how is it obviously imbalanced? this is the first day we saw this strat and you noobs are alredy complaining that its imbalanced? maybe 15cc is not viable vs this? silly gold level complaining... ' omg protoss won omg imba nerf please'
It's not really "first day" though. It's a known build. Just because it's the first time it's happened in GSL doesn't mean all the casters haven't been talking about it in every Korean Weekly / every previous round of GSL this season or that the players haven't seen it on ladder.
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On February 08 2012 20:17 Seeker wrote:
NSHS MOTHER F*CKING JJAKJI!!!!!!!!!!
is going to lose. Parting and MC must advance to get me sweet sweet liquibet points to boost my epeen
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Ahh, blueflame expansion for ganzi eh.
Jjakji with FE into tech.
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Where dat snitch at?37089 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:16 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
SC2. LR. Thread. No.
My
Thread
So
Yes
Or
Angry
Seeker
Will
Arrive
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On February 08 2012 20:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Dual Sight In the bottom left is  Ganzi In the top right is JJakji
4:10
Expansion for JJakji while Ganzi goes for blue flame hellions from his factory
JJakji now starting his factory and a bunker
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I've seen this map a LOT, as we all have, and this has been bothering me for so long
Where would Roshan be?
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On February 08 2012 20:17 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok" I dont.... >.> actually seem to remember MVP saying that?
He said it a while ago when the maps became larger and made early terran pushes much weaker.
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On February 08 2012 20:17 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok" I dont.... >.> actually seem to remember MVP saying that?
He said it but it was quite a while back. It might take me some time to locate it
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On February 08 2012 20:17 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok" I dont.... >.> actually seem to remember MVP saying that?
said it in an interview with artosis.
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On February 08 2012 20:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:17 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok" I dont.... >.> actually seem to remember MVP saying that? He said it but it was quite a while back. It might take me some time to locate it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215919
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On February 08 2012 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I've seen this map a LOT, as we all have, and this has been bothering me for so long
Where would Roshan be?
Just under JJakji's main possibly near the watch tower. Now where would the shops be? 
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On February 08 2012 20:18 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:17 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:
[quote]
It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it.
Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator.
I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok" I dont.... >.> actually seem to remember MVP saying that? He said it but it was quite a while back. It might take me some time to locate it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215919
hahaha thanks
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On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine
Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere?
Not sure if I like this build by Ganzi...
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On February 08 2012 20:18 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I've seen this map a LOT, as we all have, and this has been bothering me for so long
Where would Roshan be? Just under JJakji's main possibly near the watch tower. Now where would the shops be?
just need a pool of water in the mains that you can still build on.....
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On February 08 2012 20:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:17 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles. Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race" MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race" MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok" I dont.... >.> actually seem to remember MVP saying that? He said it but it was quite a while back. It might take me some time to locate it
Yeah, he said that like toward the beginning of last year I think.
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On February 08 2012 20:17 Drazerk wrote:
4:10Expansion for JJakji while Ganzi goes for blue flame hellions from his factory JJakji now starting his factory and a bunker
6:30
Vikings for both players while JJakji scouts the blue flame hellions of ganzi with a scv in ganzi' smain
The command center still goes to land at the natural however as he starts another bunker
Engineering bay on the way for Ganzi with more barracks for JJakji
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On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere?
Yeah but my point still stands
also I didn't have to "go" anywhere,
I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work
EDIT: also retarded 3000 post.
T.T
You guys are all mean.
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On February 08 2012 20:19 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:18 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I've seen this map a LOT, as we all have, and this has been bothering me for so long
Where would Roshan be? Just under JJakji's main possibly near the watch tower. Now where would the shops be? just need a pool of water in the mains that you can still build on.....
Oh god imagine marines with bottles rather than stim.
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On February 08 2012 20:18 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I've seen this map a LOT, as we all have, and this has been bothering me for so long
Where would Roshan be? Just under JJakji's main possibly near the watch tower. Now where would the shops be?
But that would mean one of the secret hops would basically be in Jjakji's base, and the other sort of where the north gas geyser is on the base north of Ganzi's main
How is that fair? Jjakji so has this since he can buy himself a Reaver in his base!
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