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poor ganzi getting a group with 2 toss.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37022 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:20 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere? Yeah but my point still stands also I didn't have to "go" anywhere, I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work
DAT GHOST ICON! Grats
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On February 08 2012 20:20 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere? Yeah but my point still stands also I didn't have to "go" anywhere, I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work
Congrats on your 3000th post 
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On February 08 2012 20:12 WigglingSquid wrote:Poor GanZi. Just dying to every small early or mid-game timing in this group... Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:12 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:09 WigglingSquid wrote:On February 08 2012 20:02 Xarles wrote:On February 08 2012 19:45 Mr_Wo_Ot wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. Remember the people who are responding to you are the 2% of the people reading and the other 98% enjoy reading your posts. So please dont let the haters get to you! Morrow hwaiting! Agreed. Not to mention that he gives proper reasoning towards his opinions as opposed to someone like IdrA. I'll take that over an attention seeking no-name whiner any day. The problem is that pros play their game twelve hours a day, but communicate very little about it with people who are not on their par. They walk in a forum, scribble two sentences without any reasoning or explanation whatsoever and complain when users disrespect their opinion, expecting everyone to merely bow to their experience out of sheer faith. I respect their opinion, and I agree that the TL forums can be a dangerous place for their peace of mind, but even if they don't feel like taking their time to explain they could avoid bashing just by being more subtle with their balance whine. (Nothing exotic. Just add "in the current metagame" to every complaint and no one will be able to tell it off as easily.) I think MorroW very obviously put forward his case as to why a build shouldn't allow you to get ahead both economically and in army. Yes, but he did so after his first post; anyway, I was not talking about MorroW specifically, but of the pros' general attitude. I will take their opinion as almost granted in most cases, but if they go to the length of being arrogant I will be much less adamant about defending them.
No he didn't. What the hell man. he explained perfectly well why this strat is imabalanced. Just because you can't grasp this simple concept doesn't mean that he didn't explain it, it just means that you simply don't understand what he's talking about. which is a problem on your end not his. If you don't understand the game, then don't discuss it. sick of noobs complaining about people who "dont explain it well enough" this isn't pre-school dude, if you dont understand it you simply dont know enough about SC2 or RTS games in general.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:17 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:16 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Dual Sight In the bottom left is  Ganzi In the top right is JJakji
4:10Expansion for JJakji while Ganzi goes for blue flame hellions from his factory JJakji now starting his factory and a bunker
6:30Vikings for both players while JJakji scouts the blue flame hellions of ganzi with a scv in ganzi' smain The command center still goes to land at the natural however as he starts another bunker Engineering bay on the way for Ganzi with more barracks for JJakji
8:10
Stim on the way for JJakji with a tank advantage over the mech player of Ganzi who is getting two more factories
Another base on the way for JJakji as siege tech finishes for both players.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:20 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:19 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:18 Drazerk wrote:On February 08 2012 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I've seen this map a LOT, as we all have, and this has been bothering me for so long
Where would Roshan be? Just under JJakji's main possibly near the watch tower. Now where would the shops be?  just need a pool of water in the mains that you can still build on..... Oh god imagine marines with bottles rather than stim.
Imagine marines with a DD rune
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Australia18228 Posts
GanZi is a marine-tank user? LOLWHAT...
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United Kingdom38205 Posts
Ganzi has never done mech.
Except that time he beat MVP with mech in one of the first examples of it in the GSL...
And in both games he beat Jjakji in the group stages of this tournament...
...and all those other times in between.
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GAnzi pretty good at mech, as long as he don´t nuke his own vikings ;-)
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On February 08 2012 20:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
GanZi is a marine-tank user? LOLWHAT...
My exact reaction.
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On February 08 2012 20:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
GanZi is a marine-tank user? LOLWHAT...
Artosis' mech bias is lol
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On February 08 2012 20:21 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:20 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere? Yeah but my point still stands also I didn't have to "go" anywhere, I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work DAT GHOST ICON! Grats
... also the edit that nobody read:
EDIT: also retarded 3000 post.
T.T
You guys are all mean.
disclaimer: everyone here except seeker
:<
also thanks, but T____T crappy 3000 post
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ganzi played mech vs mvp, why are they saying he's never done it
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On February 08 2012 20:21 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:20 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere? Yeah but my point still stands also I didn't have to "go" anywhere, I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work Congrats on your 3000th post
Grats on your 1337 post
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On February 08 2012 20:21 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:20 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere? Yeah but my point still stands also I didn't have to "go" anywhere, I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work Congrats on your 3000th post
congrats on your 1337th post
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bye bye Ganzi, you would have lost against Parting anyways.
Edit: not yet.
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On February 08 2012 20:14 randomdude123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? how is it obviously imbalanced? this is the first day we saw this strat and you noobs are alredy complaining that its imbalanced? maybe 15cc is not viable vs this? silly gold level complaining... ' omg protoss won omg imba nerf please'
First of all, I'm in masters. And what the hell does it mean when you say "15 cc is not viable against this" IN WHAT WORLD IS 15 CC A REACTIONARY BUILD????????
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On February 08 2012 20:22 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:21 Seeker wrote:On February 08 2012 20:20 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:19 mvtaylor wrote:On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine Haha the irony... didn't you say earlier you had to go somewhere? Yeah but my point still stands also I didn't have to "go" anywhere, I just wanted to focus on some of my work, and LRing makes it so I have to pay more attention to the GOMPlayer instead of well. the work DAT GHOST ICON! Grats ... also the edit that nobody read: disclaimer: everyone here except seeker :< also thanks, but T____T crappy 3000 post
Too bad they locked the milestone thread. I had my 3000th and 6000th (another 3000th) in there. Couldnt put the 9000th 
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37022 Posts
GanZi meching? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT!?!?
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