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On February 08 2012 20:12 Bashion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:10 HQuality wrote:On February 08 2012 20:09 ThatGuy89 wrote:
wow were MCs game just cheesey or something? surprised to see so many bad votes as usual pvt 6gate pvp 4gate 1base, then dt 1base Wrong. It was 8 gate, then a 5gate against Ganzi. got this from MC fanclub by OasisDK
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On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK?
how is it obviously imbalanced? this is the first day we saw this strat and you noobs are alredy complaining that its imbalanced? maybe 15cc is not viable vs this? silly gold level complaining... ' omg protoss won omg imba nerf please'
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Ganzi - BO loss, not Code S player..... -__-
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On February 08 2012 20:12 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:11 BansheeDK wrote:
Who said that every TvT has to last an hour?
Cool build by Jjakji That's BW bro. SCII TvT is awesome.
tell that to Flash...
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Australia18228 Posts
MMA just overcame his TvP weakness and beat Oz twice to advance?
-GanZi falls apart-
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On February 08 2012 20:14 andaylin wrote:
Ganzi - BO loss, not Code S player..... -__-
Yeah, that was overly harsh.
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Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:12 zhurai wrote:Terran imba in TvT!?!  keke
Yup. Cause in TvT, the T is CLEARLY OP 
What is the T supposed to do when the T does a strat that the T just can't respond to because they're T?
Wait.....
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On February 08 2012 20:13 Lord_J wrote:
Why are people still arguing about balance? In an LR thread? During a TvT series?
Let it go, or take it somewhere appropriate. FFS.
Now I know I've seen your name before....so I can't sue the "You're new here right?" line
So I'll just assume you don't notice that every LR thread has balance whine in it?
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On February 08 2012 20:13 CortoMontez wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:12 zhurai wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 Typhon wrote:
man, Jjakji makes TvT look so imba. Terran imba in TvT!?! keke It's all part of a conspiracy by the zergs... they give the Terrans good TvT strats, so that TvT looks Terran favoured, which will result in terran nerfs, thereby making ZvT easier
as a previous zerg player and a current semi zerg semi terran player (... also soon to be semi protoss because I wanted to just have some knowledge from all 3 races)
... that's nice
XD
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On February 08 2012 20:14 Inflicted_ wrote:
MMA just overcame his TvP weakness and beat Oz twice to advance?
-GanZi falls apart-
MMA absorbed Ryung's skill in November. Now he has stolen Ganzi's.
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On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind.
Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles.
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On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this...
What a display of ignorance, still everyone is entitled to his opinion.
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Ganzi doesn't look code S? The build Jjakji did kills reaper expands..
Tastosis needs to learn terran.
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On February 08 2012 20:15 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 20:12 Heavenly wrote:On February 08 2012 20:11 ChaosTerran wrote:On February 08 2012 19:53 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:50 Notfragile wrote:On February 08 2012 19:42 Noktix wrote:On February 08 2012 19:39 MorroW wrote:
no pro players want to give feedback or post in these forums because not its not always what you want to hear. and then you all come bashing
daybreak and metropolis are too long distances to punish something like this
you cant give the 15cc argument because 1rax expo gives a weaker followup than 15cc. thats why people go 15cc rofl, because the econ kicks in more quickly. then you get you extra raxes and geysers more quickly. you dont understand basic rts or tvp build.
toss scouts 15cc, grabs 2 nexuses, then goes onwards to not barely be able to defend, nope, he goes on to almost go kill protoss that was constantly building units on 2bases
you guys should realize me being in this game 12 hours a day for over a year knowing and talking to almost all pros plus practicing these gsl maps regularly, dont you think i should know the timings and find the flaws better than you?
its silly some tosses just come at me here just because they are defending their race
if you want feedback and pros opinions, the good and bad comes in a pack. im not gonna sit here and obliviously say "great timing on that 2base protoss" every time we watch gsl. please realize they can play macro oriented, they dont have to play like this. but they almost play like this exclusively because its more easy and they are more successful with it. It isn't your job to bitch about imbalance, It is your job to show amazing games and work out ways to beat it. Instead of sitting on this forum and explaining why it's impossible, how about you practice your ass off and become an innovator. I lose respect for every single pro i see do this... Don't you even feel the least bit of shame saying this? I am not going to discuss why your comment is plain dumb (more work =/ results if there is a racial imbalance, gimmicky strat. Think of the early 1-1-1 days and all the protoss pro gamer JUSTIFIED tears) I am just saying that comments like this should be flamed by the rest of the community. A pro does not have "immunity" to comments from us, it's just... you are flaming someone in codeA level for not being good enough. Who the fuck are you to do that, sir? The fuck? When did i say anything about Morrow specifically? He is a great player who i completely respect. When did i say he wasn't good enough? If you have trouble with a race, a strategy, ANYTHING, practice and innovate. Don't bitch about imbalance. That is the point i'm making. That's a bullshit argument.So if something is obviously imbalanced you are not allowed to complain so it does get nerfed..... THE FUCK? ForGG v MC, ForGG gets a really quick third CC then just overruns MC with mass units. T so imba, how can they get a third base so fast and just sit behind bunkers Protoss has to blindly mass gateway all-in to win. Difference? How about TvZ reactor expand versus zerg into quick third, unless zerg all-ins it definitely feels like they are behind. Pretty much. We should all know by now that listening to a pro player talk about balance is silly. I mean Nestea is a well known balance whiner and he has 3 GSL titles.
Nestea "Zerg is the weakest race"
MVP "Terran is definitely the weakest race"
MC "Protoss is the weakest race but I'm imba so it's ok"
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Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
Edit: or complaining about other people complaining about balance whine
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
Game Two on Dual Sight
In the bottom left is  Ganzi
In the top right is JJakji
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On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
SC2.
LR.
Thread.
No.
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On February 08 2012 20:16 zhurai wrote:
Can.
You.
Guys.
Stop.
Discussing.
Balance.
Whine.
Thanks
isn't that what you're doing in this post? you're discussing the balance whine
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Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
NSHS MOTHER F*CKING JJAKJI!!!!!!!!!!
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