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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 17 2011 13:33 GMT
#9481
And already, we have some cool guy trying to be hipster by being different and picking apart the finals, saying they were bad.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 13:34:40
December 17 2011 13:34 GMT
#9482
On December 17 2011 22:33 Sarang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:31 Kar98 wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:30 Testuser wrote:
Update OP? Who even won?

MMA of course :O!


MMA didn't win.

After a series like that, EVERYBODY won.

Except DongRaeGu.


only got himself to blame there though after the terrible way he started out the series xD
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 17 2011 13:34 GMT
#9483
On December 17 2011 22:32 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:30 Giriath wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:25 Flonomenalz wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:20 Giriath wrote:
DRG doesn't pay attention to his minimap for a whole minute, where a drop is in plain sight. Has to cancel his fourth.

MMA takes his third, making for three vs three expansions, sets up a good perimeter defense in the middle, but doesn't tech, expand or continue harassing.

DRG does tech and eventually mows MMA's perimeter defense, then continues attacking with Ultralisks split up into different chokes. Loses them. Then makes all his corruptors into broodlords and moves them into MMA's remaining army with some zerglings. Loses them.

MMA sets up a lesser perimeter defense and starts attempting to snipe hatcheries. He is successful, since DRG is too afraid to keep units or even static defense there, apparently expecting the immobile perimeter defense to somehow move forward; siege tanks on high-ground, missile turrets and all.

Unable to keep his hatcheries up, DRG is forced to make a last attack, once again mowing MMA's perimeter defense and making it to his base, and a choke. Then losing.

Hope to see you in Code S soon Mr. #1 GM.

Oh wait, you're terrible.

Don't know why people try to constantly fault epic games.


I don't even play SC2. Doesn't mean I can't see bad decisions for what they are, like this community usually can, too. If this exact game were a bo3 between two lesser known players, everyone would laugh at a Zerg who runs his T3 army to their death twice, then fails at setting up any permanent defense at his hatcheries against a very immobile terran main-army.



I'm trying to tell if you're a BW fan come to shit on the game.

None the less what did you think of Jangbi v the other guy (Fantasy?)

I think hes just a troll. I guess we should laugh when anyone loses armies these days.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
December 17 2011 13:34 GMT
#9484
Regardless,I watched it and both MMA and DRG are champions are in my heart and brought about a epic series that was long overdue.
Play your best
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
December 17 2011 13:34 GMT
#9485
On December 17 2011 22:33 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:29 HypernovA wrote:
Why are people shitting on Shakuras Plateau? The map is fine. Look at the TLPD stats.

Stats won't show you anything. That doesn't take into account all-ins committed or anything of the like. If TvZ gets to late game, then terran has a tremendous advantage with the 5/6 bases all being near impossible to defend for zerg. Not taking anything away from MMA's win, though. He played very well, his constant drops and sniping of hatcheries was epic. DRG also did an amazing job to push MMA back into his main.



Stop whining about maps so much

first 3 maps amazing for DRG

MMA 3-0

next 3 good for MMA

DRG 3-0
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
December 17 2011 13:35 GMT
#9486
On December 17 2011 22:31 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:30 rushian wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:20 Giriath wrote:
DRG doesn't pay attention to his minimap for a whole minute, where a drop is in plain sight. Has to cancel his fourth.


No. It wasn't in plain sight because morphing hatches don't give you vision (I assume based on your obviously superior knowledge you're aware of this). He saw it with his overlords, then saw it move back as if to return home. MMA changed direction and dropped the marines outside of overlord range, where he had sight of the hatch, but DRG did not.

The observer showed DRG's vision and he could have seen it (but there was only one marine visible between 2 mineral patches, so not easy)


This is where MMA is so effing smart. he saw the ovie and IMMEDIATELY moved the medivac out of vision. AND he saw the ling and moved the medivac and marines out of vision. Dongraegu only had a split second to notice it and obviously there was so much other action taht he simply missed it
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
TheSurgeonTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States131 Posts
December 17 2011 13:35 GMT
#9487
Thank you to everyone, players, casters, producers, fans for making this the best game on earth. SC4Life
Bringing Starcraft Main Stream
Graviton
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia146 Posts
December 17 2011 13:35 GMT
#9488
On December 17 2011 22:33 SeaSwift wrote:
And already, we have some cool guy trying to be hipster by being different and picking apart the finals, saying they were bad.

Probably because he appreciates near-flawless play, rather than sloppy decision making.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 17 2011 13:36 GMT
#9489
On December 17 2011 22:30 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:25 Flonomenalz wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:20 Giriath wrote:
DRG doesn't pay attention to his minimap for a whole minute, where a drop is in plain sight. Has to cancel his fourth.

MMA takes his third, making for three vs three expansions, sets up a good perimeter defense in the middle, but doesn't tech, expand or continue harassing.

DRG does tech and eventually mows MMA's perimeter defense, then continues attacking with Ultralisks split up into different chokes. Loses them. Then makes all his corruptors into broodlords and moves them into MMA's remaining army with some zerglings. Loses them.

MMA sets up a lesser perimeter defense and starts attempting to snipe hatcheries. He is successful, since DRG is too afraid to keep units or even static defense there, apparently expecting the immobile perimeter defense to somehow move forward; siege tanks on high-ground, missile turrets and all.

Unable to keep his hatcheries up, DRG is forced to make a last attack, once again mowing MMA's perimeter defense and making it to his base, and a choke. Then losing.

Hope to see you in Code S soon Mr. #1 GM.

Oh wait, you're terrible.

Don't know why people try to constantly fault epic games.


I don't even play SC2. Doesn't mean I can't see bad decisions for what they are, like this community usually can, too. If this exact game were a bo3 between two lesser known players, everyone would laugh at a Zerg who runs his T3 army to their death twice, then fails at setting up any permanent defense at his hatcheries against a very immobile terran main-army.



He had tanks on the high ground near the outer expansions. Good luck setting up a permanent defense.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
December 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#9490
On December 17 2011 22:30 FuTon wrote:
[image loading]
Slayers_MMA!!
Congratulations!!!!

Haha got back to my PC in time to see "Special thanks to" at the end of the broadcast.
Thats an amazing picture.
Congratulations to MMA.
Being a slayers fanboy its really nice to see, but tbh i wouldve been happy whoever won. I think that the 3 players who deserve the "best gamer of 2011" award are MMA, DRG and MVP, nice to see one of them taking it.
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#9491
On December 17 2011 22:35 Graviton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:33 SeaSwift wrote:
And already, we have some cool guy trying to be hipster by being different and picking apart the finals, saying they were bad.

Probably because he appreciates near-flawless play, rather than sloppy decision making.


That's 2. Any more for any more?

Is it too hard to appreciate epic finals, or do people just enjoy criticizing players far better than themselves? Hell, even IdrA approved of these finals.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#9492
On December 17 2011 22:35 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:31 MrCon wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:30 rushian wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:20 Giriath wrote:
DRG doesn't pay attention to his minimap for a whole minute, where a drop is in plain sight. Has to cancel his fourth.


No. It wasn't in plain sight because morphing hatches don't give you vision (I assume based on your obviously superior knowledge you're aware of this). He saw it with his overlords, then saw it move back as if to return home. MMA changed direction and dropped the marines outside of overlord range, where he had sight of the hatch, but DRG did not.

The observer showed DRG's vision and he could have seen it (but there was only one marine visible between 2 mineral patches, so not easy)


This is where MMA is so effing smart. he saw the ovie and IMMEDIATELY moved the medivac out of vision. AND he saw the ling and moved the medivac and marines out of vision. Dongraegu only had a split second to notice it and obviously there was so much other action taht he simply missed it

Yeah, but the marine I talked about was the one visible for a full minute as the other guy said (not defending him or not, I just saying that he was right on that)
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
December 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#9493
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs Rain, GSL open season 3
jabberwockzerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States294 Posts
December 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#9494
OH. MY. JESUS. EGGNOG. CHRIST. I will be a tired wreck all weekend long. Worth it? HELL YES!
I put the money in the jacket, and the jacket on the kangaroo, and now he's hopping away!
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
December 17 2011 13:38 GMT
#9495
On December 17 2011 22:30 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:25 Flonomenalz wrote:
On December 17 2011 22:20 Giriath wrote:
DRG doesn't pay attention to his minimap for a whole minute, where a drop is in plain sight. Has to cancel his fourth.

MMA takes his third, making for three vs three expansions, sets up a good perimeter defense in the middle, but doesn't tech, expand or continue harassing.

DRG does tech and eventually mows MMA's perimeter defense, then continues attacking with Ultralisks split up into different chokes. Loses them. Then makes all his corruptors into broodlords and moves them into MMA's remaining army with some zerglings. Loses them.

MMA sets up a lesser perimeter defense and starts attempting to snipe hatcheries. He is successful, since DRG is too afraid to keep units or even static defense there, apparently expecting the immobile perimeter defense to somehow move forward; siege tanks on high-ground, missile turrets and all.

Unable to keep his hatcheries up, DRG is forced to make a last attack, once again mowing MMA's perimeter defense and making it to his base, and a choke. Then losing.

Hope to see you in Code S soon Mr. #1 GM.

Oh wait, you're terrible.

Don't know why people try to constantly fault epic games.


I don't even play SC2. Doesn't mean I can't see bad decisions for what they are, like this community usually can, too. If this exact game were a bo3 between two lesser known players, everyone would laugh at a Zerg who runs his T3 army to their death twice, then fails at setting up any permanent defense at his hatcheries against a very immobile terran main-army.



It isn't about what you said it is about how you said it. Condescending to two of the best players in the world with limited information and everything on the line in the 7th set of a Bo7. You are talking down to people who can't see the whole map and still have to make decisions on the fly. Either way, everyone here knows that they both made mistakes, I doubt many pros can go 30+ minutes and not make several mistakes (some of them game changing).
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Coopfreak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
December 17 2011 13:38 GMT
#9496
So glad I woke up in the middle of the night and caught this last game. Epic Epic Epic. If it was a different map, MMA would have played differently the entire game anyway. Amazing, well deserved win.
Jisunsu
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines47 Posts
December 17 2011 13:38 GMT
#9497
Lolz at the monday morning quarterbacking posts
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
December 17 2011 13:39 GMT
#9498
On December 17 2011 22:37 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:14 trinxified wrote:
There hasn't been a PvT GSL finals right?

MC vs Rain, GSL open season 3

hmm has mc and inca been the only p in finals?
Korean overlords
Squalish
Profile Joined April 2010
United States137 Posts
December 17 2011 13:39 GMT
#9499
epic final series! only caught the last 3 games, but wow! glad i woke up and happened to tune in.
i hope protoss has the potential for such an epic back and forth type of match
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
December 17 2011 13:39 GMT
#9500
On December 17 2011 22:35 Graviton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 22:33 SeaSwift wrote:
And already, we have some cool guy trying to be hipster by being different and picking apart the finals, saying they were bad.

Probably because he appreciates near-flawless play, rather than sloppy decision making.

He must also enjoy shitting all over everyone else's good time.

It was an amazing series. DongRaeGu being down 0-3, then winning 3 in a row and playing in an absolutely insane game 7 is fucking unbelievable.

I don't care if the players made mistakes. Every player in every game in sc2 history has made mistakes.

That series was the greatest finals of sc2 history, and not just because of the quality of the play.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
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