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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 11:27:30
December 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#1801
On December 07 2011 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:25 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:22 Fionn wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:21 Elthreann wrote:
If i EVER play Marineking, I will NEVER NEVER NEVER get ahead, cause thats when he plays best


It wasn't really MKP playing amazingly, though. He did well, but Boxer played awful at the end.

There was no reason to just sit and wait for BC's.

Yeah, I feel like boxer could've won by:

1 - Not going BC
2 - Getting some ravens
3 - Pushing and containing marineking


Sadly he lost his ravens


He was going for BC he could have at least made another one

Anyway guys what were Boxer's upgrades at the end for his mech? I saw 0-2 and if that's right that explains quite a lot actually.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#1802
On December 07 2011 20:26 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:25 bgx wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:24 Seeker wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:23 thoradycus wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:22 Qikz wrote:
All I'm saying is Terran seriously needs the shredder to have mech work. The sensor tower gives you infromation, but it doesn't change the fact they just stim through it.

this. WTB spider mines


What does WTB mean?

want to buy, wow term

Because WoW is the first and only MMO out there

of course
Stork[gm]
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
December 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#1803
I know im a marineking fanboy and i think you all know that but i feel that game 2 was marineking throwing it away, and game 3 boxer could not finish the game. i dont think it was choking but just got outplayed at the end game. mech on that map is kinda hard with all the routes
number one fan of marineking
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#1804
On December 07 2011 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:25 dmnum wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:22 Fionn wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:21 Elthreann wrote:
If i EVER play Marineking, I will NEVER NEVER NEVER get ahead, cause thats when he plays best


It wasn't really MKP playing amazingly, though. He did well, but Boxer played awful at the end.

There was no reason to just sit and wait for BC's.

Yeah, I feel like boxer could've won by:

1 - Not going BC
2 - Getting some ravens
3 - Pushing and containing marineking


Sadly he lost his ravens

I might have missed it, he only made 1 or 2 and lost them when MKP pushed his natural at the early game right?
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
December 07 2011 11:27 GMT
#1805
On December 07 2011 20:26 Sadistx wrote:
People need to stop irrationally loving mech. Also "when you're ahead get more ahead" isn't always true like Artosis iterates every cast. Sometimes when you're ahead, it's better to just end it, since with mech, you're actually hurting yourself by taking more than 4 bases, since you cannot defend them AT ALL.

The BC choice was rather questionable as well, since you get BCs to counter ground units, which the 25 +3 siege tanks already do. You get BCs with bio to COUNTER MECH, not the other way around. If Boxer needed to waste gas on something, he should have gotten Ravens, to counter the clumping MM balls, not +0/+1 bcs.

Pfs do nothing against upgraded bio either.


this, and despite what Artosis says, I've heard it many times when he's approved of a kill-move over a "get more ahead" move.
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
December 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#1806
How to see the endranking of this Liquibet season?
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
December 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#1807
On December 07 2011 20:24 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:22 TdX wrote:
cant boxer basetrade? when only the armies are left in game wont he just win?


Did you really just suggest basetrading MKP?

Remember what tasteless said:

"Trying to basetrade MKP is like trying to drown aquaman".
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
December 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#1808
On December 07 2011 20:23 Absentia wrote:
Boxer played that game pretty phenomenally really. The map's not easy for mech given all the attack routes.
I think he probably should've been making raven's instead of battlecruisers at the end because the marauders looked like they were really making the difference in the engagements.

Yeah. The decision to go battle cruisers that early killed him.

Also I feel he should have expanded upwards towards the top left. Would have been a little bit easier for him to secure that position because the bottom choke at the natural was harder to attack and he could have left less units there. If he expanded upwards and made a slow push towards the top Xel'Naga tower, he would have been able to get a really good and defendable position which defended his top two bases. Then he could just leave a couple of tanks to defend the choke at the bottom.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#1809
On December 07 2011 20:26 Sadistx wrote:
People need to stop irrationally loving mech. Also "when you're ahead get more ahead" isn't always true like Artosis iterates every cast.

Mech was fine, but yes the "when you're ahead get more ahead" rubbish is what lost him the game, he had a clear timing to kill, or at least contain marineking, but he was too safe, with so much on the line it's something that's understandable, but MarineKing is someone you don't really want to give the chance of rebuilding and expanding everywhere.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 07 2011 11:28 GMT
#1810
On December 07 2011 20:24 Lasbike wrote:
People in Code S (January or February ?) :

Jjakji
Leenock
Mvp
Oz
MMA
Puzzle
aLive
sC

Keen
Nestea
Brown
MC
GanZi
DonRaeGu
Parting
Happy
Fin
Supernova
Curious
MarineKing

Still 12 more through up & down, with players such as Bomber, Polt, Nada, Zenio, Losira, July, Huk, Boxer etc...


Dream 12 for Code S for me would be:

- Clide
- JYP
- HerO
- Nada
- Killer
- Polt
- Zenio
- HuK
- Bomber
- Gumiho
- Losira
- Boxer

...though I'd be happy with most of the offerings.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1811
Hmmm so how do code s seeds work now? naniwa is one right? who gets the other one?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 11:32:10
December 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1812
That was really heartbreaking and frustrating. It's extremely upsetting how Boxer lost that third game. He was SO far ahead. However, after his code A run through the qualifiers and one game away from code S, I'm happy that I no longer have to worry about Boxer when he loses. I no longer am afraid of him fading away into obscurity after being outclassed by a mechanically superior progamer. Boxer's actually good. He'll be around. I'm happy to be able to say I think, not just hope, that Boxer will get through the up and down matches. Boxer will get into code S.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1813
On December 07 2011 20:24 Lasbike wrote:
People in Code S (January or February ?) :

Jjakji
Leenock
Mvp
Oz
MMA
Puzzle
aLive
sC

Keen
Nestea
Brown
MC
GanZi
DonRaeGu
Parting
Happy
Fin
Supernova
Curious
MarineKing

Still 12 more through up & down, with players such as Bomber, Polt, Nada, Zenio, Losira, July, Huk, Boxer etc...


idra DeMuslim...dont forget these <333 xD Possibly would guess that blizzard cup winner/runner up im sure would get code S spot if it was like WCG winner or Stepahno?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
December 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1814
Yeah sometimes its dangrous to be too safe with mech instead of pressing for the advantage
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
December 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1815
On December 07 2011 20:28 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:23 Absentia wrote:
Boxer played that game pretty phenomenally really. The map's not easy for mech given all the attack routes.
I think he probably should've been making raven's instead of battlecruisers at the end because the marauders looked like they were really making the difference in the engagements.

Yeah. The decision to go battle cruisers that early killed him.

Also I feel he should have expanded upwards towards the top left. Would have been a little bit easier for him to secure that position because the bottom choke at the natural was harder to attack and he could have left less units there. If he expanded upwards and made a slow push towards the top Xel'Naga tower, he would have been able to get a really good and defendable position which defended his top two bases. Then he could just leave a couple of tanks to defend the choke at the bottom.

I agree. In fact what people are missing is that the mech play actually put him comfortably ahead... then he decided to make BCs
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
xXxSepirothxXx
Profile Joined November 2011
68 Posts
December 07 2011 11:29 GMT
#1816
No BoxeR

My passion is gone..
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 11:30:41
December 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1817
Perfect liquibet day, yet sad day.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 11:30:31
December 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1818
nvm
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
December 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1819
On December 07 2011 20:28 antilyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:24 Ghanburighan wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:22 TdX wrote:
cant boxer basetrade? when only the armies are left in game wont he just win?


Did you really just suggest basetrading MKP?

Remember what tasteless said:

"Trying to basetrade MKP is like trying to drown aquaman".


lol this is so true
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
December 07 2011 11:30 GMT
#1820
On December 07 2011 20:29 rushian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 20:28 pdd wrote:
On December 07 2011 20:23 Absentia wrote:
Boxer played that game pretty phenomenally really. The map's not easy for mech given all the attack routes.
I think he probably should've been making raven's instead of battlecruisers at the end because the marauders looked like they were really making the difference in the engagements.

Yeah. The decision to go battle cruisers that early killed him.

Also I feel he should have expanded upwards towards the top left. Would have been a little bit easier for him to secure that position because the bottom choke at the natural was harder to attack and he could have left less units there. If he expanded upwards and made a slow push towards the top Xel'Naga tower, he would have been able to get a really good and defendable position which defended his top two bases. Then he could just leave a couple of tanks to defend the choke at the bottom.

I agree. In fact what people are missing is that the mech play actually put him comfortably ahead... then he decided to make BCs


he played mech really well, if only he went for nukes instead of BCs (fan service)!
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